New York limousine crash victims included newlyweds, brothers

From what I understand this early, 18 of the dead were in the stretched Excursion limo. That seems like a lot of weight and looking at the topo map that’s a pretty good drop to the T intersection. Must have been extremely violentl crash to kill everyone inside.

Those Excursions are super heavy just by themselves stock from the factory. Nearly 7,000 pounds curb weight or more depending if 4wd

 

Do they typically upgrade the brakes when the build a super stretch limo? Or is it “optional”?

 

That’s because Excursions were built on the Ford Super Duty chassis. They use the same engines and transmissions. One of my cousins has one with the Triton V10.He has six children so it’s a necessity for him.

 

some sad #### man . . .



I need a hug

 

Brake issues history in failed inspections, among other troublesome issues ...
Limo Firm’s Operator Is Charged in Fatal Upstate New York Crash

 

I hate to throw the driver under the proverbial bus, but I think it's gonna turn out it was all on him.

Probably didn't downshift at the top of the hill or just rode the brakes down until they failed.

Lot of newspapers are noting that there are no skid marks, well you can't leave a skid mark if you can't lock a wheel. Between ABS & brake fade probably had no brakes at the bottom.

The other alternative is that the vehicle WAS defective, but again that falls on the driver to recognize the vehicle is in poor condition and refuse to drive it. (Or to be aware there's an issue and try to work around it. Again,,, slow at the top of the hill)

Interesting that the attorney's trying to throw some responsibility back on the state, but honestly I don't think there's anything he could pin on them.

(Also, a lot of stretch companies don't upgrade the brakes or engine. Frames start to sag after a few years. A 17 year old limo is a scary proposition. The one I rented for my wedding was in sorry shape and it was only a few years old, and I used to BE in the business!)

 

Well, the since the driver is dead, the owner is next in line, and rightfully so. Given the expansive failed inspection history, it's hard to not place the business/vehicle owner first in line of the fault train.

 

Yup, except he's out of the country, and I can't say I blame him for not being in a hurry to come back. They jailed his son already, not sure how that's going to work out. Prosecutor wants a scalp on this. Going to be an interesting court case.