Newbie Team Hotshot Questions

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by tperry1, Jan 29, 2022.

  1. tperry1

    tperry1 Bobtail Member

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    Hello All,

    My brother-in-law and I are looking at starting a team-hot shot business. We have all funds necessary to get started and maintain until income comes in from it. We Plan on starting out Non-CDL, but will work to get CDL very soon.

    Just wanted to ask a few questions...

    1. Has anyone done this, any tips, stories, recommendations?
    2. How does the sleeping arrangement work? I know we would have to get a birth, and I've been looking at the attachments that go on the bed. Would one of us basically have to be in the birth while the other is driving? I'm not really sure how the timing would overlap. In my head, I figured id drive nights, while he drove days.

    Any information would be greatly appreciated, and helpful!
     
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  3. Redtwin

    Redtwin Road Train Member

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    Can't offer any advice hotshot related, but from the 5 weeks I spent in training on a trainer's truck, I sure hope you guys are best of friends. I don't mean good rapport when you occasionally see each other. Living in such a confined space will test you both. Add in the equal partner dynamic where there isn't a defined "leader" or "boss" and things can unravel quickly. Something as simple as throwing out trash etc can cause bust ups.
     
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  4. Big Road Skateboard

    Big Road Skateboard Road Train Member

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    Teaming in a big truck is horrible, not gonna get better in a compact.
     
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  5. brian991219

    brian991219 Road Train Member

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    Short answer to your question is yes, one of you drives while the other is in the bunk.

    To comply with hours of service regulations the sleeper berth must be DOT compliant, which in a pickup truck requires modifications such as a Woodhouse add-on or completely removing the right front seat for entry/exit from the driver seat requirements.

    Hours of service only allows the co-driver to be out of the sleeper in a moving commercial motor vehicle for up to 2 hours either immediately before or immediately after their driving shift otherwise all time spent in the front seat of a moving CMV while not driving is logged as on-duty time.

    As a compliance consultant with many hotshot clients I see this often where team hotshot drivers, because of the size of the truck, don't have a DOT legal sleeper or the co-driver doesn't stay in it and they get hours of service violations which include fines and maybe being placed out of service for up to 10 hours.
     
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  6. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    At least get a crew-cab or 4-door pickup truck.
    @brian991219 mentioned Woodhouse, so take a look at that website. You'll need to have a DOT Compliant sleeper area. Sometimes the rear door panels have to be removed to make the length of the bunk DOT complaint. Woodhouse knows what is required.
    Woodhouse
    There's other companies that do what Woodhouse does also. Woodhouse is the most recognizable name.
     
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  7. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Going into business with family and/or friends is never a good idea.
     
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    I thought they changed the rules for the compliant sleeper for hotshots??
     
  10. brian991219

    brian991219 Road Train Member

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    Yes and no. If they are a solo driver then they don't need a compliant sleeper berth since it is legal to be off-duty in a parked commercial vehicle. This is true for anyone, not just hotshots, meaning someone could technically go longhaul in a daycab if they wanted to. Crazy, right?

    For the OP, he asked about team driving which still requires a legal sleeper berth so the co-driver can be compliant with hours of service and log sleeper since a team truck will be moving and a driver can't log off-duty for more than 2 hours in a moving commercial motor vehicle.
     
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  11. tperry1

    tperry1 Bobtail Member

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    I've looked into woodhouse, also looking into cowtown, as well as zoomroom.
     
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