Newbies!! All common carriers are usually bad !!

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  1. passingtrucker

    passingtrucker Light Load Member

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    :biggrin_25513: As a 20+ year veteran trucker, I must warn you newbies that most OTR carriers will mistreat and/or underpay their drivers. The key term here is "common carrier." The trucks you see on the highways/roads across the USA can either be classified as either a "common carrier" or "private fleet" trucks. Common carriers generate revenue by providing service of transporting product from point-A to point-B. In contrast, private fleets are an extension of a retailer, or manufacturing company. Much as a company will have an accounting department, maintenance department, procurement, etc..., a private fleet provides supporting service to a business organization. Take Walmart for example; they're a retailer who buys merchandise wholesale, then resells the merchandise at retail price. Their primary source of revenue are the public consumer/shoppers. Walmart maintains a fleet of trucks which hauls merchandise from their distribution warehouse, to its final destination at the Walmart/W-supercenter retail stores.
    Another example of a private fleet are the grocery supermarket chains in your area, Coca-cola beverage, Anheiser Bush, Costco, etc... Unlike common carriers, these private fleets pay their drivers well and have practically zero accidents every year. You rarely see these private fleets advertise for drivers, because they have a very high driver retention rate. The only time theres an opening for a driver is when they're buying more trucks to expand the fleet, a driver is retiring, resigning (very rare), or been terminated. As newbie drivers, it should be your goal to secure a position with one of these private fleets. It won't be easy. They require at least 1-year verifiable driving experience with a clean DMV printout. And you must not have a history of job-hopping. Private fleets prefer you averaged no more than one employer a year. Some grocery chains require at least 5 years driving experience! After you've completed one year of OTR driving, you should prepare a resume and begin submitting a copy to the Human Resource/Personnel department of every private fleet you see within 20 miles of your residence. The driver position usually pays hourly. If its OTR, its usually within 200-300 miles radius of the terminal and pays hub miles or hourly, based on what you've reported on your logbook. Hub miles is actual miles, as what your odometer shows. So if you're loss and you drive around in circles trying to find an address, you're still getting paid the miles you incur.
    When they call you for an interview, they might say it starts off as part time (20-30 hours per week), but will later become a full-time position after a month or so. This is a probationary period to allow them to gauge your productivity as a driver. Accept the position, even if its only a part-time position. This is to get your foot in the door, and on your way to earning over $1,000 a week gross, and still come home every night !!
    In conclusion, all these common carriers who are crying "driver shortage !!" are misrepresenting the fact of the situation. Its really a serious driver retention/turnover problem. Across the nation, drivers are quitting by the thousands every month and settling down to an hourly-paying local job! The long hours, constant deadline pressure, periods of sleep deprivation, and being away from home and friends/loved ones is not worth the pay, when you can make just as much $$ or more--and be home everynight--as an hourly-paid local driver.
     
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  3. notarps4me

    notarps4me Road Train Member

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    Have you talked to these well paid drivers? Pepsi is about the most ate up one out there and basicly they are shelf stockers who work long hours and are well under paid.
     
  4. Strngs012

    Strngs012 Light Load Member

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    The biggest super-market chain here in Florida Publix, hires there drivers from within. You must start out as a warehouse worker for a few years before bidding on a drivers job.
     
  5. 074344

    074344 Road Train Member

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    notarps,

    I have a friend who has worked for Pepsi since 1999. Although it can be hard work, he makes $20.19 per hour with overtime after 8 and doubletime after 12 hours. He is home very night and every weekend unless he chooses to work. I am not sure of the rest of the benefits he receives. They work long hours in the summer and it slows a little in the winter.

    passingtrucker,

    I have to agree with everything you have stated. In my opinion, OTR companies do not compensate their people properly. These people spend way too much time away from home for the pay they receive. I am not very good with computers but I did post the benefits we receive on 8-4-2007. I wish I knew how to insert it here. The only difference now is that we are paid $24.39 per hour and our retirement pay has gone up to $4.39 for every hour worked. Good luck to all of you.

    Drive safe
     
  6. notarps4me

    notarps4me Road Train Member

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    I have pulled a lot of pepsi loads OTR they were always ate up. The pepsi in marion Il is ate up. They have a yard in benton KY and I know a lot of their former drivers, plus my wife is a manager at walmart and has had to deal with them a lot. She said they are their worst vendor and all th drivers I know said it was low pay and they ripped you off all the time. They offered me a job and I brought this up and they said yeah we used to have those problems. Coke pays better, but I know some of pepsi drivers were taking home about 300 bucks a week. When they do set ups at places whatever gets sent back is taken out of their pay.:biggrin_2556:
     
  7. BigDaddyJollyRob

    BigDaddyJollyRob <strong>"El Oso"</strong>

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    Thanks for keeping us newbies informed. I use to work for a supermarket in the north east in there LP department driving from store to store via personal vehicle.Once I get my cdl im going to check into them. I know its going to be tough with no experience but I left the company on excellent terms. Once again Thanks
     
  8. Mr_Dude

    Mr_Dude Engineer Of Doom

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    The best thing you (and this includes you seasoned veterans out there) is ask about Dedicated stuff.
     
  9. bigblue19

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    I have been on dedicated lanes and offered dedicated customers etc etc...and most dedicated routes I have been offered payed less for more work. What a deal! Look what these OTR companies pay their local drivers. What a joke. The bottom line is when are these OTR outfit gonna get out of the 30's and pay us for the time we are working and not just driving.

    They want us to be at their beck and call and bas icily a prisoner from the time we leave the house till we go home, but want to do it for free.

    When I started you could bobtail to a store or to eat. Now they don't want you doing that anymore and some companies want you to find your own way home after dropping the truck in a yard. A friend of mine who still works for May trucking was told he could no longer take his truck home but had to take it to a secure location which is either north of Sacramento or down in Fontana Ca. He lives in freaking Vasailia so he is going to have to quit the company and find a job else were.

    What a new driver should think about is that as a company driver today you will be getting paid for about half the time you spend doing work for the company.
     
  10. 074344

    074344 Road Train Member

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    notarps,

    Did you work for Pepsi or a contractor of some kind? The only time my friend says they take money out of their checks is when the cash receipts don't add up. He works a side loader going to liquor stores and chains (all local). Yesterday he worked 13 hours and drove 29 miles. That does not seem like fun to me but he likes it. The drivers that go to grocery stores start off at night. He prefers days so thats why the low miles. I guess it doesn't matter because they are all paid by the hour, he just prefers to work when the sun is out.

    Drive safe
     
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