No CDL...gooseneck anyone cited over 26K?

I recently purchased the Take 3 Ultra LIght 48 and the CA Highway Patrol told me that even if my load was 26k or under but the GVWR of the trailer was 10k or more I need my class A CDL. Can anyone confirm or deny this?

 

I recently purchased the Take 3 Ultra Light 48 and the CA Highway Patrol told me that even if my load was 26k or under but the GVWR of the trailer was 10k or more I need my class A CDL. Can anyone confirm or deny this? The funny thing is you don't go through the scales in CA with a dually/wedge combo apparently so is it just a rule that isn't enforced or would I be stopped to check the trailer rating etc.

 

A few states have this law where you need a class A if the trailer GVWR is over 10k. I believe California is one of them. 90+ % of the states do not.

 

I confirm Bdog statement.

 

Here is a link to the Cali CDL manual.
https://dmv.ca.gov/web/eng_pdf/comlhdbk.pdf
Page 14 has a flowchart of what cdl class, if any, is required.

Edit: Now I'm on my desktop I can post a pic of just that page.

 

I have my class B and looking to get into the business. I'm under the assumption that I can go over the 26,000 gvwr as long as my trailer stays under 10k. Is this gvwr or actual weight ? I have about 30k to put into a rig any ideas ? I've did some research but I figured I'd see if any Texas guys in here I could reach out to in person.

 

It's both actual or registered, whichever is greater.
Say you have a truck registered at 26k and a trailer at 10k. Don't even need a class b for this rig.
Now say you overload it beyond the weight rating. Say the truck is really at 27k and the trailer is 12k in actual weight. Not only can you get overweight tickets, you can get an invalid license ticket as you will have triggered the need for a class a.

 

Registered weight may not even matter if the door tag on the truck and vin plate on the trailer indicate a high enough gvwr/gcwr to trigger the cdl requirements. For example, you cannot register a 3-axle class 8 truck for 18,000 and drive it around without at least a class B. Hook an empty bumper pull trailer up behind it with a pair of 6K axles, and despite still possibly being under your 18,000 registered weight, you'll still need a class A because the trailer's gvwr exceeds 10K and the combination's gvwr is well in excess of 26K...despite your registered weight of 18K or your actual weight of 17K.

To be on the safe side, and to avoid ANY troubles on the side of the road, your license ought to reflect the HIGHEST weights for the vehicle you're operating...whether it is the rated, registered, or actual weight. If you attempt to use some imaginary loop-hole, you may just find yourself sitting on the side of the road OOS with a "driving out of class" citation.

 

I’m in Texas have a class B cdl ….
Got a “driving out of class” ticket pulling an EMPTY 14k bumper pull trailer.
Truck & trailer combined were rated over 26gcvw

 

Some guys "DE RATE" the registered weight of the trailer to stay under so they can run Non CDL. Lots of work to restrict your load choices. You don't even need a CDL school. Study on some of the CDL Apps for the written test. Wait 14 days after getting the permit to go take the test at the DMV. Lots of info and youtube video's to show you what needs to be done. ( I was a third party examiner for NC )

 

Derating the registered weight does nothing. You have to get the manufacturer to derate the GVWR. That is what the cops use to determine what class of vehicle it is. I could walk in tomorrow and register my semi for 5,000 lbs but that doesn't mean a person without a class A could magically legally drive it.