No log book required

We had CHP dot meetings every 6 months at work where they come and talk to us and give us updates and any law changes etc etc and that was one question that was asked and that's the way it was explained to me. I'll try to search it up when I have some free time.

And if you don't believe me try it. Lol

 

Lol yea you find it and get back to me.Like i said i live in se pa and crossed into del,nj and md everyday for years with no log book and been stopped plenty of times especially in md and when they asked me why i didnt have a log book i said i punch a time clock and im within 100 air miles and never been fined.

 

I'm going back to FMCSA regulations on this. The governing parts as far as I can see is 395.1 and 395.2. I can see no mention of a difference between interstate and intrastate as it relates to logging. What I see is the term properly carrying vehicles. Also as another poster has said I have also done interstate trucking without a logbook with me. I actually got a level one DOT at the I-85 scales in South Carolina once. The officer asked me if I had it, I replied no. I showed officer my permits and my load ticket generated by our shipping department. Nothing said I got inspected and let go. I also got stopped by a North Carolina DOT officer near Franklin. I had no logbook, I got inspected and sent on my way, no case was ever made.

 

Interstate, and Intrastate has nothing to do with the movement of the truck... has everything to do with the frieght.

100 air miles is 100 air miles regardless of state lines...

The confusion comes from guys that run under state regulations, they can not cross the state line, as then they are required to use federal regulations.

 

Do it all the time within 100 air miles, every day crossing between wyoming and colorado, going through two scales every load. But we are classified as interstate commerce not due to crossing state lines, but because the freight crosses state lines.

Intrastate commerce has NOTHING to do with the truck, but with the freight the truck hauls. For 18 months I never left the area of central wyoming, but because the crude oil is shipped out of wyoming, we are not intrastate commerce, but interstate commerce.

 

That makes no sense. If your running across state lines day in day out, through several states then then intrastate has nothing to do with them at all. And doesn't matter if you're empty. No freight at all. Thus you're still under federal DOT and not your home state or whatever. If this was so, then you'd not have to even bother with logging bobtail or empty.

so you're telling me, you could run across state lines empty all day long and never have to log a single mile?

 

Obviously, if the freight is going across state lines, even if it's within 100 air mile radius, then that's interstate. Correct?

 

I think we are losing sight of the Forrest because of the trees. There has been a lot of discussion about what constitutes interstate and intrastate trucking. However lets not forget that FMCSA regulations that covers logging and hours of service speak of property carrying vehicles most of the time. These rules cover the drivers not the freight. There is not a single mention in any of the hours of service and logging rules of the crossing of a state line. You would think that if the FMCSA held this interstate/intrastate thing to be of importance in regard to drivers there would be at least a reference back to it. I see none! An orange is just that, an orange. It don't matter just how much you want said orange to be an apple, it will always be an orange.

 

Here, you ran local in texas as an intrastate driver using texas laws...

do NOT confuse that with the 100 air mile rule, which does not require a log book.

 

Actually, the FMSCA can ONLY regulate INTERSTATE trucking.