No more super singles?

Discussion in 'Con-Way' started by double yellow, Nov 25, 2013.

  1. Richter

    Richter Road Train Member

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    if you haul cattle and are really concerned, you can get rims with a 2 inch offset.
     
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  3. Richter

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    I had a duel rip the metal mudflap hanger and fender which then took out the whole side by the time i pulled over. (was in left lane) Front right blew, bent the hanger, inner blew which bent the hanger more to hit the rear wheels. the last one blew on the shoulder as i cam to a stop. They got rid of the fenders on the whole fleet after that.
     
  4. mattbnr

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    Maybe that's why I don't see a while lot of fleets running fenders.... I always wondered, but I guess I always catch myself looking at them trucks that have the full fenders over both drives thinking "boy If that tire blew it's sure to mess that fender up something awful." Guess my thinking wasn't that far off the mark...
     
  5. wore out

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    Will a 2 inch off set effect the load bearing capabilities? Seems the more off set the weaker the wheel due to leverage. With a 22.5 wheel and a taller tire will the side walls roll and give it a spongy feeling? The 11r24.5 makes 476 revolutions per mile. The 11r22.5 makes 513. It would seem that the taller the tire from the top of the rim the more roll the sidewalks would have. But I don't know so that's y I am asking
     
  6. mattbnr

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    It would most likely be a 1" spacer on each side giving you the 2". It shouldn't effect the load bearing capabilities since that's what the spacer was designed for. As far as the rolling sidewall issue no. The sidewalls on the SS are designed harder just for that reason.
     
  7. double yellow

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    Offset rims don't cause appreciable wheel flex, but they can adversely impact axles/bearings.

    Source: http://www.truckinginfo.com/channel...now-about-wide-base-singles-offset-axles.aspx
     
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    Very informative article that answers a question I was thinking about last night.
     
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    It is a 2inch spacer and I was beat to the article on adverse side effects which you should read along with a lengthy pdf on Michelin website. Talks about tire roll coming down the ramp. Now I wasn't doubting you but if these things are that groovy I hate to miss out.

    One of my questions was can I stay same height? answer on this thread yes answer from michelin no low pro 24.5 is tall as they go I run tall.
    Statement was also made the offset would be over both wheels. Wrong again, also wrong they wouldn't effect load bearing capabilities cause its what they are made for. Michelin says check with your individual axle manufacturer as they are not all on board yet.
    Load rating of michelin SS drive with lowest rolling resistance 10200 pounds
    load rating of michelin 11r24.5 with lowest rolling resistance 6610 per tire so 13220 per side or 6000 pounds per axle differance. My weight isn't always legal so it matters to me. both have extremely similar resistance numbers. Also michelin compared aluminum duels to SS aluminum rim and tire weight comparison is only 200 pounds differenance per set.
    I found out this info in less than two hours looking. Does that make me a tire expert? No it doesn't.
    So guys you can see that the super singles work great for you, but not for me. What if I had bought a set on a whim and had poor results would you laugh or feel bad about giving bad info. Not that I would without doing my research but others might. Michelin post gains of .24 average mpg gains, from the SS single to comparable duels.
     
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  10. Richter

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    The offset rims can bare the load fine, although mich says the roll over risk w/o isnt noticeable higher. With taller rubber on smaller rim, it wont feel spongy as much as it will just ride smoother.
     
  11. Richter

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    I thought you ran low 24.5 thus tall 22.5 would be similar. Do you actually run tall 24.5? If you run tall rubber on 24.5 then you wont get that on a single. No one hear claimed they would hold more then legal weight. But 20,400 per axle is already 2,400 pounds illegal per axle on your drives. You must run WAY over weight if this is a concern.


    As for the offset rims, you can buy them for any axle, but could damage the axle long term. Best is to just stay with the non offset....the rollover risk isn't a noticeable amount more.


    FYI i jyst drive 5 hours in ohio snow with my singles and had no toruble. I even passed trucks with duels in the snowy lane.
     
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