no power..Cummins 444E in school bus

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  1. mrmike1964

    mrmike1964 Bobtail Member

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    hope i can get some help here guys. My husband and son are stuck in Canada. on their way back from alaska heading to GA in a international bus with a 444E diesel engine. It runs on vegie oil as well as diesel. Its been too cold to run the vegie so he added some diesel to it thinking it might help. Bus won't get over 30 miles an hour. They gotten rid of the diesel/vegie mix and are running straight diesel. Put a ton of injector cleaner thru it. Any other suggestions on what else they could try?
     
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  3. black_dog106

    black_dog106 Road Train Member

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    I am assuming they have tried new filters?
     
  4. mrmike1964

    mrmike1964 Bobtail Member

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    oh yes most definitely
     
  5. okiedokie

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    Long shot. The 444E has varible timing controlled by a value that the oil pressure makes it work. Sometimes the value gets plugged up w/ dirty oil,ect. This will cause a loss of power. Good luck folks.
     
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  6. mrmike1964

    mrmike1964 Bobtail Member

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    where is this valve located? I will have them check it out. Thanks!
     
  7. Heavyd

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    Keep running the diesel for now. There really isn't much they can do. Low voltage will cause low power. Have them check the air filter. Have them check the oil level and coolant level. Are they getting a "Check engine" or WARN engine light? If no warning lights I would say they have a fuel problem. Hopefully it clears up!
     
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  8. mrmike1964

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    thanks all of you for your input. No check engine lights. I wll have him check the other items that have been mentioned
     
  9. Heavyd

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    Ok, if no check engine lights, that means that the high oil pressure injection control system is ok, very important and a common cause of low power. Engine coolant temp is ok, base engine oil pressure is ok. The low power may be also caused from low turbo boost. 444's don't generate too much, but have them check all the flex hoses between the engine and air to air cooler mounted in front of the rad. Also at the turbo charger and the "Y" section to the left and right cylinder heads.
    How are they making out now?
     
  10. milskired

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    I am going to say it is a fuel system problem. If that stuff gets to thick and gets into the fuel system it will take a while to work it out. If it was a High Pressure Oil problem then my guess would be a sensor like the IPR in the High Pressure Oil Pump. I am still going to say it is on the fuel side though. The 7.3 liter can run no problem on that stuff but as soon as it starts getting to thick it can make the motor run like crap and can also do injector damage
     
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