Non CDL - CMV Logbook?

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  1. newtoCMVworld

    newtoCMVworld Bobtail Member

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    I'm having a hard time navigating FMSCA website for logbook requirements for a non CDL driver. Driving a >10k lb and <26k lb, no MC number due to nature of work, have CMV medical card and now trying to interrupt logbook requirements. Occasionally involved in interstate, mostly intrastate.

    Welcoming any advice and suggestions!
     
  2. Cattleman84

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    Going to need more specifics... What you driving, pulling, hauling, where to and from. What industry ex: farming, oil field, mining, logging, general freight, ECT...
     
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    This is going to take a few minutes. Read 395.1 very carefully! Does any of the driving situations described in sections (b) to (x) apply to you? If they do read the guidance there! If NOT then you have to abide by the rules set forth in 395.3. and then go check out section 395.8 to see if you are required to use an ELD! Off hand, I don't think most non CDL CMVs require them.

    This is about as easy as i know how to say it.
     
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    There is 150 air mle non CDL exemption and our 'travel agent' reached just a little too far, our non CDL was writen up, false log, no RODS, failure to use the ELD [was set to all 'on duty' to be his time record] when RI caught him, our 150 air mile circle 'just touches SE Rhode Island...we were around 60 miles too far.....
     
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    Are the HOS different for non-cdl?
     
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    The straight line distance between "normal work reporting location" and farthest point was just over the 150 AIR MILE limit, or the tripmeter/odometer driven distance was over the 150 AIR MILE distance. It is the straight line, as the crow flies, if I was in a helicopter, distance that must be within 150 AIR MILES (or Nautical miles), which happens to be 171 statute miles. The FMCSA definition of Air Mile is 1.15 statute miles, which are the miles your odometer and speedometer use
     
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    150 Air Mile radius and draw a circle that distance form your work reporting location and drive anywhere inside that area and return to the work reporting locaiton within 14 hours...

    From our location in Middlesex county New Jersey you can just reach the SW corner of Rhode Island.

    Freemaptools.com search for a radius.....
     
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