Nonpayment Of Invoice
Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by DSK333, Jun 8, 2018.
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Are there any situations a broker may legally hold payment? And I'm not talking about any of the made up crap as in, "must send invoice and pod within 1 hour" or "carrier was 10 minutes late" or whatever nonsense policies some brokers conjure up.
Damage to product should be a cargo claim which is a separate thing from freight charges. -
The shippers use that clause as their basis to defend against paying you, claiming they already paid the broker that was acting as the transportation company. They will use the legal standard that says just because one section of a contract was violated (non-payment) it doesn't render the rest of the contract invalid.
This is what we went thru collecting the $30k invoice, took a lot of work by the lawyers to get past that. Had it been a big name shipper used to freight brokers going belly up we may have lost but it was a auto recycler that was in over their head, large company but not used to dealing with freight payment claims. This was the first time they used a broker so their contract wasn't as good as it should have been, bad for them good for us.Mattflat362, gokiddogo, Oscar the KW and 2 others Thank this. -
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But the part you said about the brokers having some kind of an agreement about not going after the customers.
Picture this, the bill or summons comes in to the shippers desk. The shipper calls the broker and says something like "I got a bill or a summons from the trucking company, did you, or are you going to take care of it?"
Yea I bet any amount of money the broker settles that quickly. Or loses his customersDSK333 and brian991219 Thank this. -
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My one success was for almost $30,000 and it cost about $10,000 in legal fees but there were other small carriers that were shafted by this broker as well, the shipper was not normally a shipper so they didn't know how to defeat us in court and I fight for right and wrong even if it costs me money. Really wanted to get the broker for fraud, he deliberately took their payment and disappeared -real scumbag. It took almost 18 months and several trips to court in Albany, NY to settle this, in the end we all made out but that is usually the exception not the rule.
Now a small invoice for say $3k, you may be able to bring action against the shipper in you local small claims court, they may not even take it serious and show up resulting in you getting a default judgement that you then can pay a few hundred bucks to the local Constable or Sheriff (depending on how your state works) and they will go enforce the judgement and collect for you.
It may also be worthwhile to contact a collections company, some will make a few attempts for a couple hundred dollars, or get a lawyer and pay them $500 to write a demand for payment letter, this works with smaller shippers that don't have legal teams at their disposal.DSK333 Thanks this. -
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