Not a smart move for a guy hauling Haz-Mat.

Discussion in 'Trucking Accidents' started by Kapn, Jan 29, 2014.

  1. AfterShock

    AfterShock Road Train Member

    Sep 19, 2007
    Inland Empire, California
    What are those charges? :dontknow:
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  3. tinytim

    tinytim Road Train Member

    Oct 29, 2007
    Northern Ontario
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  4. Richter

    Richter Road Train Member

    Feb 13, 2012
    Philadelphia Pa
    He certainly couldnt stop going that speed. I would have gone much slower in those conditions. If he was going a safe speed he could have easily stopped from when he first saw the semi in the wrong lane even on the icy road.
  5. speedracer 1963

    speedracer 1963 Medium Load Member

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  6. not4hire

    not4hire Road Train Member

    May 16, 2012
  7. OldHasBeen

    OldHasBeen Road Train Member

    Dec 16, 2010
    Amen & amen. I've watched it several times too & agree 100% with you. We have many who are good at condemning anyone & everyone!

    When your on packed snow hitting the brakes is a no no, & besides there was a slight curve, & it much different setting in the drivers seat than watching a video.
  8. tsavory

    tsavory Road Train Member

    Jun 4, 2013
    Paoli, IN
    very true as I watched it I saw the 5 second delay everyone is going on about I was expecting it then I sat back and thought to myself if I had been in the drivers seat going around a corner on a narrow road next to a guard rail. One of the things I do is check my mirror off and on to make sure I am not getting to close. 2 the angle as your pulling out of a corner can give the perception of cars in multiple lanes even when they are single file. Had either of those been going on it would take the eyes and brain a second or so to conclude it was not the case. so I can see two seconds or so being burned up before realizing what was going on first reaction as a professional driver is lighting breaking say a couple of seconds then you realize he is not going to get over in time and thats when he reacts with voice. All in all he did not over react and hit the breaks hard causing a jackknife. WE can't see what his eyes were doing before it dawned on him. WE can't see what his first response was (may have been breaking a little) ALL WE know is when he first started voicing his dismay.

    I have many time reacted to things like cars pulling in front going way to slow then voiced the what the hell ####### remarks. One day I may find a few of my videos that show this clearly avoided the problem and only about half way thought it does the mouth open up.
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  9. crb

    crb Road Train Member

    Dec 1, 2009
    Looked to me like the guy with the camera was driving too fast for conditions in the first place. Would it have kept the accident from happening? Who knows. The other driver was definitely in the wrong, but the guy with the camera sure didn't help matters in my humble opinion.
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  10. tsavory

    tsavory Road Train Member

    Jun 4, 2013
    Paoli, IN
    slow enough no one got killed thats the part that really matters IMHO

    I love how everyone comes on and say stuff like he was going to fast for conditions and I bet many of them would have been doing about the same. Maybe we don't know how sticky the road really was heck on a real cold day those roads would have had better traction than a patchy road on a warmer day

    I learned to drive in the high country of Colorado how many love that corner at the bottom of Fremont pass going south? Drivers Ed teacher put me in a skid going though it middle winter snow packed point is I know how to drive in snow and ice and some drivers scare the hell out of me.
    I ran across OH,IN, and IL the other day at 60-65 MO 65-70. Most of these guys will say it was to fast but I bet a few of them where right there doing the same with me at some point if you was you know the hammer lane with snow cover was better than the slow lane cleaned off.
    biggest thing is only do what your comfortable with if your going to fast or to slow for comfort your body tenses up and you make mistakes.
    Be safe and do it right
    Pass slower I would catch someone running 55 and slow down to match then pass about 57-58 then gain my speed back up (as I told one other driver that was crying a truck cut him off even on dry roads I try to never zoom by anyone you can't see everything they can)
    Corners Slow down before then coast though corners.
    Patches of ice coast across them
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  11. Dinomite

    Dinomite Road Train Member

    Sep 6, 2012
    Looking 4 Rocks
    Head on Collision Scream like a bia bia don't you say that.
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