I've been solo less than a month (doing LTL OTR) and without a doubt, the biggest frustration I have is managing my HOS. It's not enough to wake up with a fresh 11/14 every day and drive till I'm out of time then pull over for 10 hours.
If I'm going to be successful I need to learn how to manage my hours and be smart about when to take breaks, working the 8-2 sleeper berth split and knowing how many hours I'll have and when I'll get them.
For instance, I called my dispatcher yesterday about 2pm and told him I was going to come up an hour short getting back to the yard. All I knew to do was drive as far as I could then wait 10 hours for a fresh 11/14. He said, "pull over at the first opportunity and take an 8 hour break. At the end of the 8 hours you'll get a little over 5 back then you can come on in"
To me, that was nothing short of magic. What do I need to know in order to do that?
Any suggestions appreciated.
(Obviously we're on e-logs)
Not enough hours in the day. Or night.
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by GreenMonster9669, Nov 1, 2014.
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I've been driving for 6 months solo otr and still have no sure how the 8-2 split sleeper works. I was just about to search for it. I feel your pain and stress
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The 8/2 may not help you, figure out how to plan the route, take your breaks and then see what happens after that. Unless you are running hard, which you shouldn't be with OTR (it isn't critical stuff) than you can plan on your breaks without difficulty.
rarely did I ever run out of hours nor has any of my drivers, but they also know when to tell their dispatcher "hey, I am taking a break leave me alone". -
If you take an 8 hour SLEEPER BERTH break you will get back whatever balance you had on your 11 and your 14. It sounds in your case you had about five hours left on your 11 and/or 14 to work with when you pulled over. Generally after finishing driving that balance out or whatever I need to drive I'll then take a 10 hour break and have a fresh 11/14 to work with. It's a rare occasion to use the "split 8", but very handy in a pinch. I've never bothered with the "2" part of the "8/2" so I'll leave that to those that have.
30 minute break - it's best to take this break when you have 2.5 hours or LESS on your original 8 hour clock. Then you will only need to take one 30 minute break per day.
Are you on e-logs or paper logs? If you are on e-logs then the minute you come within RANGE of a truck stop or customer and come to a full stop you can log off duty. For example, you are going to stop for the night at a truck stop and take an exit ramp and come to a stop sign. Immediately log to off duty and proceed to the truck stop slowly (less than 15 mph in our trucks) and go hunt down a place to park. Finding a parking spot and getting it in there can take a lot of time. If you don't log to off duty during that time it all is recorded as drive time. Once you are parked you can do your post trip. When you think about it, the process of getting into a parking spot can chew up hours of time when you add it up for a week if a truck stop is full. Use those hours productively. -
http://www.thetruckersreport.com/tr...ed-logging-split-sleeper-berth-explained.html
Explains the 8/2 split pretty well. But Lepton is incorrect, the 8 hour sleeper berth time does not get all time back on your 11/14. It only works to extend your 14 by 8 hours. Only when used in conjunction with the 2nd half (the 2 hour part) does it give you back hours by completing the 10 hour break requirement, and then only the time before the first of the 2 breaks is recouped. Usually the 8/2 split is used when a customer keeps you on location for a while. For instance, you check in at a receiver to unload and he puts you on a door. You then spend the next 2 hours in the sleeper watching TV while they unload you. This qualifies as part of the 8/2 split then. After leaving their property you do whatever until you get close to the end of your 11/14. Now if you want you can take an 8 hour sleeper berth break or a full 10 hour break. If you do the 8 hour break it resets your 11/14 hour clocks to the end of the 2 hour break you took at the receiver. Additionally, the 8 hour sleeper break doesn't count against the 14. -
5 hours left on the 14 would mean 9 hours since it started, so 2 left on the 11. And that is assuming no pre-trip or other on or off duty time.
That is a moot point, however.
GreenMonster was going to be an hour shy, and at that point it really didn't matter how much time was left on his clocks.
He was a bit short.
And I personally don't see the reason to take a short break just to get back to the yard 2 hours earlier.
All that does is stress you out, and short you of needed sleep.
Not to mention, that time has to be made up for at some point in the near future.
And, Lepton - if you are logged off-duty while doing those things you are in violation.
If you happen to hit something (or someone hits you) while driving in off-duty status - where does THAT get you?
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Dont you have to log your post trip while on duty? So going off duty on the exit ramp, then log back on duty, do your post trip, then log back off duty or sleeper?
I once cut my 11 so close I parked and then went over while logging my post trip.... -
i don't kjnow why those of you running elogs are worried about how the math works. the machine does all the work for you.
i have no idea how it works. and people can explain it all they want.
my logs are on laptop. it knows what to do. so i just roll with it.pattyj Thanks this. -
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Yes I do have elogs but I can't plan my day if I don't understand how it works. I can't just sit there and stare at my Qualcomm until it gives me hours. Just say'n.
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