Not Yet There Asking For Advice

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by speedyk, Apr 8, 2015.

  1. speedyk

    speedyk Road Train Member

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    I've done different kinds of work in my life, moved around a little. Trying to decide about trying the CDL life. No ties, can move anywhere, but would prefer the desert southwest or mountain west. I'm over 50. I have pro driving experience years back (too long ago for a resume) but not CDL.

    Perfect driving and criminal record. No substances or issues. Good attitude. We were drivers in my family, in the sense that we did long trips with no problems. Have driven all over the US already, can make progress any kind of weather. I'm reading threads here. I talked to a Swift driver last year about the training hell he went through. (Watching their drivers on the road, I call then Natso-Swift.)

    It sounds like bulk/haz-mat might be a good option for a faster money start. I pass tests well, not at all worried about those. Have taught transportation rules in another field. I can probably take the written tests on my own. Given all that, where would I start? Obviously I don't have my life still ahead of me, so spending years working my way up isn't a good idea, and I know it will take time for a company to see that I care and work hard and can think and drive at the same time.

    When I worked as a driver it used to amuse me at how little some of the people in the office thought about what a driver goes through in a day to get the work done. So a company run by former drivers would be a plus. Looking for a company that rewards work and safety, treats people well, and would take on someone new if promising. Any suggestions? And thanks for reading.
     
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  3. Shaggy

    Shaggy Road Train Member

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    Find a Accredited Driving school in your area. Get your CDL Class A with all Endorsements and get a TWIC and Capitalize on your safe driving record and No criminal record or no record . Native to the USA ? What's your location to help us to help you.
     
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  4. speedyk

    speedyk Road Train Member

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    Thanks, Shaggy! I was hoping that might help, given how the ads all read. I've been reading up on America's Job Centers in another thread, might have a look around here to see if there's a program to help me out with tuition. And I'll remember about Accredited.
     
  5. HalpinUout

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    As far as a faster money start I really don't think ( Could be wrong ) that a very fast money start is going to happen no matter where you go OTR... Like everything in life as you well know I am sure ( being that your 50 ) its going to take a little time... I would avoid Natso-Swift because they are exactly that and I am sure you know England is in the same boat... I would go to a private CDL school and get licensed that way and then try and get with a small company in your area. As far as Haz-mat with a lot of companies in my opinion its almost a waist of time unless you are doing constant cross county hazmat loads that's the only way it would be worth it.

    Working for a company doing 1 or 2 500 mile Hazmat loads a month just isn't worth it, considering all the baggage that comes with it and you more than likely only getting a nickel more per mile...

    If you are trying to be more Local and still travel somewhat I would look into doing Linehaul with an LTL company... Old dominion has drivers that do linehaul but stay out a couple days at a time...

    Trying to get to the top of the money tree going LTL Linehaul would probabaly be your best bet... A lot of LTL companies offer a CDL school with training and the whole 9 yards... Try looking at ABF they have overnite runs and pay very good.
     
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    speedyk Road Train Member

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    Great idea! Applying right now. Their website needs work, only shows me states in India for some reason. Not sure which Indian state Tucson is in. :^)
     
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  7. Chinatown

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    LTL trucking is OK for some, but tankers is best, in my opinion.
    Some tanker outfits hire right out of CDL school and some want a yr. driving first. Even if the websites have "experience required", apply anyway. They bend their own hiring rules for high quality applicants.

    Trimac Transportation - $65K-$100K+ per year.
    Groendyke Transport
    Con-way - has LTL
    Decker Truck Line-Southwest regional available
     
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    It depends what you want to do. Do you want to be on the road all the time or do you want to be home every day? That's going to affect the plan people give you.

    If you want to go on the road, do a little homework on the different training options. Some companies are pathetic at their training, and some $5,000 schools are even worse. If it means having to sign a contract for a company that will teach you the right way, it's better than getting a bunch of endorsements but having no idea how to drive with a trailer.

    If you want to be home every night, you're kind of limited on your options. Compare schools and take the best one. Try to have a plan too, depending on your state, you can be paying for all those endorsements every time you renew your license. An endorsement for doubles/triples is just a waste of money if you're never going to take a job driving doubles and triples. Hazmat seems to be becoming a requirement around me, make sure to get that. TWIC seems like it's catching up around here. Not a bad idea to get that done before starting a job. It can become almost impossible to take care of that later. You probably won't need it, but having the option of being able to go for those jobs makes finding jobs easier. But for work, I'd recommend US mail. You'll never have an easier job that pays that good.
     
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    I think Halpin is right, occasional HM isn't worth the headaches for $.03-$.05/mile. Lots and lots of regulations, every one of which is a major citation if violated or missed. For you. Heck, just the parking issue is worth more than the pay. I got my endorsement, used it, will renew it, but do not pull much HM any more. Best. You'll be fine.
     
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  10. speedyk

    speedyk Road Train Member

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    Thank you all, more to think about and invaluable coming from people who actually do it. Much obliged to you for taking time.
     
  11. speedyk

    speedyk Road Train Member

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    Well, I looked into ABF and Conway, both want 10 years of complete background in detail, which is ridiculous in my case, worked as contractor, sometimes on several things at once, sometimes there were dead spots where I worked even harder to find projects but didn't get paid. I put in for ABF, not expecting anything, gave up when I saw Conway wanted the same thing; too much flyshit from pepper for some HR drone to comprehend probably and then if there's anything not right they'd hold it over me.

    I don't usually like big outfits anyway. I like working on a handshake best, that kind of person and outfit. Anyone know of a smaller outfit in the southwest that would be interested in a safe show-up driver, and not have to do a lot of BS to get going? I took the practice tests on here, thank you webmaster for those, and I think I can go take them all at one shot and pass them in whatever state I can find work, just need someone to give me a week and a road test and I'll start making miles for them.

    Again, appreciate all the help. I also dropped a line to Trimac, didn't hear back so I guess they only do established CDL's.

    I'm going to just go drive around and stop at whatever companies I find, might come back here to check on them with the experts. It's a shame about ABF and Conway, I think I'd like LTL. Used to enjoy doing airfreight pickups with straight truck, outside, some moving around to keep from getting too fat,, lots of sights to see each day. Better than sitting in an office. It's active which is more interesting to me than droning along, although I can do that if needed.
     
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