Notre Dame spire burns and collapses.

2500 for first class!!!

To understand 2500 is to refer to my grandparents new house in 1920's that retailed for 1100 dollars on a 15 year note. (That's equal to roughly 45000 today.) Baltimore finally abolished the land rent law in 1999. (Makes for a interesting situation where you got land title to the house you were in all your life... but not until then...)

I understand there is a actual replica of the Titanic being built and fitted. Within a few years she is expected to carry people on 25,000 dollar tickets across the Atlantic. You would call it living history minus the cell phones, internet etc that we all have today. (Not sure if they will run that on coal or oil.) so there would be a need yet for steam engineering skills at sea.

 

Imagine being the guy that has to live with that.

 

I was able to collect some more items to consider.

The first is two satelittle imagery, before and after. Freely distributed online to any and all no limitations on it.

Second is a 1100 pound robot called colossus, during the height of the fire when the entire roof complex was burning above the nave arches (Main hall where worshippers sit) the heat was too much for humans, exactly like a oven broiler for burgers. But humans could not go into that hall. So they deployed a fire robot supported by a monster engine pumper to bury walls in cold water at a rate of around 660 gallons a minute. Essentially a gasoline tankers worth of water every 10 minutes. (Remember they were a island with two rivers to draw from. Endless water)

This Robot was the point man of a giant wall of water supported by humans who remained in the main entrance doors under the bell towers on one end of the church. The fires were advancing towards the two towers with 13 ton bells and timbers inside supporting same. (These are whole trees cut about 1140 AD of a size no longer availible in all France since that time. Our Redwoods in the west coast would be the closest in size and age to those Oak timbers and whole trees) If anyone knows anything about wood, once you cut a tree, stack firewood from it a year it's pretty dry and ready to burn. This wood had been dried close to a thousand years. And the firemen filled that hall with water shield hoping the entire building is not able to torch the towers in that awesome big fire.

 

I’d never heard of this church until the fire,
But with today’s technology they don’t need to cut down old trees for the timbers, they can just use ecofriendly laminates.

Where were all the flying tankers?

 

The tankers had three issues.

First each large tanker would require two little ones, one on each wingtip to make a pass. Parish has some airspace conflicts (Effiel tower is a few blocks north and west as the crow flies)

Second the amount of water dropped from such a tanker say a 747-100 or -200 would approach 200,000 pounds That's like dropping 4 or 5 gasoline tanker trucks worth at once. It would crush the building. The Flying Buttresses would not be able to hold since 800 years of wear on the stone requires extensive Restoration to save the structure otherwise they crumble and eventually fall down.

Third, where are you going to put these bombers when they are all out, thirsty and need huge amounts of water or retardant etc. Not to mention the people around the place. It's not exactly precision bombing.

They had to go in with what they had. And compared to American Fire Equipment sometimes the European trucks are well suited for their area.

A long time ago in Westminster Maryland we had a thunderstorm come up with big lightning. One hit a steeple of a Norman pattern tower church of about 105 feet tall and sparked a big fire up there. That would eventually drop the bells and burn the place down. It's all hardwood under that brick, stone and slate.

That particular fire resulted in a longest high speed distance and time call out of a huge cannon ladder truck which itself was tractor trailer out of Rockville Maryland. Distance of 71 miles on the ground in 40 minutes all out to get there. Once established and feeding off hydrants supported by a number of local engine pump trucks it put out the fire right quick. I think that was 3000 gallons a minute all out. If you aimed that at a person, it would have taken the skin and flesh, muscles etc right off your skeleton. (Wont be the first time that has happened)

I also believed they called in quite a number of fire equiptment from all around. If it was going to develop into a proper church fire in the old style with that fine woods etc it would have threatened the town of about 30,000 people so that was another record for that time.

 

I don't wonder at all..
Islamobeggars.

 

lol I saw what you did there.

 

I blame elogs

 

Here’s some firefighting aircraft that don’t necessarily need a runway.
Canadair CL-415 - Wikipedia

Beriev Be-200 - Wikipedia

Closest large water source to the fire is the River Seine.