NTSB Recommends Cell Phone Ban

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by BigfootWRL, Sep 13, 2011.

  1. Scott101

    Scott101 Medium Load Member

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    They could step up the enforcement of Distracted driving laws TODAY.

    Instead the talk is to ADD MORE LAWS which has to go through a whole process and then there will be a period of time before it even becomes law, and THEN they may start enforcing it. --That is ludicrous.
     
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  3. otherhalftw

    otherhalftw R.I.P.

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    I wasn't in the mood to go back a read all the posts...what I was referring to was the last sentence in the post I quoted...highlighted/bold/in blue, on top here.

    Using your two different examples...I didn't think about it before now...but the NTSB appears to be giving LaHood a pat on the back for such "insight" and to prop up his attempt. However like I said before, the NTSB can only report and recommend...they have no legislative power, and anything to do with the public (not CMV's) and highway motoring (including in town, non-highway) must come from individual State legislation.

    There are plenty of individual laws, including city specific ordinances, regarding this issue...but as is generally the course....nothing in the laws or ordinances to finance any additional law enforcement to enforce the laws/ordinances, and the courts have very quietly reminded the cops, that the dockets are overflowing as it is...
     
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  4. Jfaulk99

    Jfaulk99 Road Train Member

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    Oh so it's only the people on the phone that are swerving all over the road? I was unaware that there weren't any accidents before cell phones.:biggrin_2559:

    Your truck? Don't you mean your company's truck?:biggrin_25525:

    Hold on a sec, I've got to take this call, schedule pickup and get an unloading appointment for another truck for tomorrow.:biggrin_25525:
     
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  5. Winchester Magnum

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    I'm posting from I-94 right now. Hahahahahadaha



    Juzz kidding.
     
  6. Jfaulk99

    Jfaulk99 Road Train Member

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    I knew you were lying because of the lack of breaking news of a 900 vehicle pile up on I-94.:biggrin_25525:

    Although just to be safe I've given your current location to big brother and they're going to reprimand you for even making a joke of such a serious violation.:biggrin_2559:
     
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  7. Jordon

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    Nope. Not quite. We are flooded with imbeciles that need big brother to pass laws to protect us from them.

    Your words would make more sense if you were referring to seat belts, motorcycle helmets or hookers.
     
  8. ECU51

    ECU51 Heavy Load Member

    Kewl,,,actually thot about the 2 this morning,,The truck provision will be implemented(not much to stop it),,but the other will be a harder thing to implement(nationwide) like you said,,,,on the truck side if it just ment ONLY a headset and or Bluetooth i see no problem with that(I would think most on here would say same)

    now if the "scope" of the reg is vague and or to much "gray" area and left up to each jurisdiction to "infer" then i see a major challenge by OOIDA at the very least.

    The timing did seem odd,Lahood comes out with this and a few weeks later NTSB writes their own separate paper
     
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  9. Jfaulk99

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    Agreed, at least I live in a state that doesn't require motorcycle helmets (yet) unless you have a learners permit. That seems to be the last thing left up to individual choice however I'm sure the nanny's will try and change that.

    What the pro-police state people fail to realize is how these laws snowball. When the seat belt law was first enacted it was promised that it was never going to be a primary offense........well guess what. They started with only allowing hands free (which even AAA says it's not holding the phone that's the distraction)....then it's no calls at all.......then it's something else. Your liberties are slowly being eroded in the interest of safety. They know they can't go all out and just ban them totally the public won't put up with that. So they just start chipping away slowly and these guys keep begging for more.:biggrin_25526:
    I just think they should make it extremely hard to get a CDL and weed out the morons and leave out the nanny state laws. Let me issue the licenses, if you can't talk on a phone and keep it in your lane you fail. If you need hood mirrors to keep from hitting stuff you fail. If you think one shower a week, sweatpants and flip flops is acceptable work clothes you fail. If you need a speed limiter to stay out of trouble you fail. If you think the term "lease purchase" is a good business decision you pass! Only so the rest of us can have some entertainment watching you fail.:biggrin_25525:
     
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  10. Jfaulk99

    Jfaulk99 Road Train Member

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    Just like Al Gore's "global warming/climate change" the science is settled on cell phones!

    Are Studies Evalutating Cellphone Use & Car Crashes Overestimating Risk?

    Just like drunk driving stats, they like to tilt the numbers to fit their agenda. If you have say 4 beers and are sitting at a red light minding your own business and stone cold sober grandma rear ends you........guess what, that's labeled as an "alcohol related crash" even though it had nothing to do with the accident.
     
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  11. Jordon

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    States banning all cell phone use while driving and the FMCSA banning commercial vehicle drivers from touching their cell phone, are two completely different things.

    The DOT study, which I've read, says that studies have shown no increased risk for just talking on the phone and their intent is not to ban talking on the phone. The studies have shown that the risk comes when drivers take their eyes off the road to locate the phone, reach for the phone, flip open the phone, bring up the contact list and/or dial a number.

    The federal law doesn't prohibit you from talking on the phone. You just can't touch the phone and I'm in full agreement with that.

    But, the NTSB urging states to ban all cell phone use, is ridiculous.
     
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