O.S.H.A. and Truck Repaires

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  1. Sad_Panda

    Sad_Panda Road Train Member

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    I guess crap piles could be taken more way than one! :biggrin_25525:

    20 hours a day? That's all you drive? You aren't a REAL MAN! :biggrin_2554:
     
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  3. Working Class Patriot

    Working Class Patriot Road Train Member

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    He's a Real Man alright....from The US or Canada.....That more than "20 hours a day" honor goes to our buddies S/O of El Paso and they don't even have anything that remotely resembles OSHA or let alone the FMCSA....
     
  4. javelinjeff

    javelinjeff Medium Load Member

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    You forgot the shot of starting fluid to help seat the bead!(matches not included)
     
  5. javelinjeff

    javelinjeff Medium Load Member

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    Ron-you should have seen the stuff i saw in laredo yesterday,,,one guy was using bricks in front of the trailer tires so he could unhook--IT HAD NO BRAKES AT ALL!!! funny part was,he was using those hollow concrete bricks,they kept crumbling-he must have had 15 or so stacked on his catwalk,,,he only had about 7 left by the time he got unhooked with his "approved" cross border trailer.
     
  6. M.Enterprises

    M.Enterprises Medium Load Member

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    Go back and read your post # 5. You indicate that they don't work for you.

    No need to re-read. I know what I said. No one has ever quit.

    There are many companies out there that feel OSHA is a joke and not needed. Many of these companies are risking their employees lives.

    And who does that hurt the most?

    I worked for one. The company rules were a joke. The employee lost a leg due to the way the company required the work performed.

    You seem to pick your employers quite poorly for someone so nit-picky. Perhaps your just bitter over only being accepted by employers with low standards. That isn't anyone else's fault, though. How long did you stay with the company before you had enough? Apparently, there were an ample amount of employees that were happy enough to keep trading their labor for cash. If you don't like what they do...quit!

    Likewise, if there are so many employees that complain, the company will get a bad wrap. Strikes and labour movements will follow. If people refuse to work for a company that mistreats them, that company will be swallowed up by companies that treat their employees better. In the mean time your just tooting a one-man "poor ol' me" horn that has been used by so many before you....I would wash your mouth after that.
     
  7. Roadmedic

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    The company under the fabulous leadership went belly up because of the management and the lawsuit. He had the same attitude about OSHA and made similar statements as you. In fact, I would almost think you were him except he does not know how to use a computer.

    I do not work for companies. I am an Owner Operator.

    From your post 5.
    Anyone who says the word OSHA around me doesn't work for me. May may have BEFORE saying it, but not after saying it.

    Sure looks to me like if they say the word OSHA they don't work for you. If they don't quit like you say, then someone makes a decision for them.

    I am not tooting a horn. I worked in management for over 20 years. I know what the company thinks and how it operates. I am more inclined to other ways now. It is my opinion about the issue, just as you have yours.
     
  8. Red Fox

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    I've seen where OSHA destroyed companies over stupid little nitpicking along with fines for compliance...like requiring ground wires on household appliances that were designed (and UL approved) without them. Needing safety rails along catwalks (that had been there for 40 years) going over piles of fertilizer (that couldn't hurt you if your dove headfirst into) and other things that were prohibitively expensive. OSHA isn't the Great Savior of Mankind many think them to be. You don't say their name around construction either. We're sinking as is. And my jobs are safe, inspected, and overprotected as is. (*like requiring flag jackets for crew working around apartments...for what? Lawsuits.)
     
  9. bullhaulerswife

    bullhaulerswife Forum Leader/Admin Staff Member Administrator

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    Theres good and bad about OSHA. We all know it. The good is that they do help with employee safety in certain industries. The bad is they have some over the top regulation just like any other government agency. There seems to never be a happy medium in these types of overseers, you know? But then again, you'll always run into the one: Inspector / Dot officer / IRS agent, etc, that seems to take their job very seriously and will push every little issue to the letter, without any consideration to common sense.

    As they saying goes: It takes all kinds. And I'm sure that OSHA is no different.
     
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  10. Working Class Patriot

    Working Class Patriot Road Train Member

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    OSHA most likely started with honorable intentions....but come on...They forced us to wear hardhats, hearing protection, and eye protection inside our trucks on a job. We never had to get out of our trucks...even to dump..but "rules is rules...":biggrin_25526:
     
  11. M.Enterprises

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    The company under the fabulous leadership went belly up because of the management and the lawsuit.

    Sounds like OSHA was not a component. Despite the best of intentions, OSHA cannot and will not ever replace the harsh and volatile regulations of the marketplace. The Rule of Law is upheld in the marketplace, in the private judicial system, and finally in the courts. OSHA sets standards according to what has been created in the private market, often years or even months before the market's demands. In that homely example, I told you how mechanical work is not any more free for the company driver than it is for the owner operator. Someone is footing the bill, and if the worker's demands are for mechanical work above his demands for higher pay; it is not anyone's business but those involved in that agreement. OSHA does not need to tell that worker that his demands for mechanical work are well merited, but his demands for a higher paycheck and advancement in the company in lieu of such "free" repairs is unrighteous. Such an insinuation is an insult to every working man and woman in this country that was founded on the belief that if two people make an agreement voluntarily, they are both better off because of it

    It has been OSHA's stance of involuntary unemployment of otherwise content employees as one of the many damages created by a tyrannical bureau. This agency could be a Union based on voluntary contributions from employees, but it is not. Why? Because there is no more faith in OSHA to protect the worker than there is faith in the IRS to deliver wealth to the average person. Government agencies have nothing to offer until they rob the very ones they conspire to save from self-inflicted peril. Such voluntary OSHA contributions would likely fall on the deaf ears of hard working people in this nation. Why have taxes confiscated in order to be told to wear a helmet?

    Your response of the company going under was expected. It wouldn't happen any other way.

    I actually am saying that despite the most noble intentions, OSHA has created problems far worse than any problems they may have solved.
     
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