Off duty, driving Tractor ONLY home, DOT Reg??????

Its amazing how many drivers don't know the regs. . Something so simple and yet drivers everyday get confused.

 

Regulators
we regulate any stealing of his property
and we #### good too
But you can't be any geek off the street,
gotta be handy with the steel if you know what I mean, earn your keep!
REGULATORS!!! MOUNT UP


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Personal Conveyance is a grey area and isn't clear the way it's described. The interpretation only says from home to terminal and terminal to home along with short trips to surrounding motels and restaurants. It doesn't come out and say one can DH 150 miles home when they are empty and then continue on to pick up when they come back on duty. That's why it is confusing. Pretty much if you are making progression towards your next load that part has to be logged.

Any one should be able to look at a logbook and get a picture of what you done. If you go off duty in one town and magically come back on duty 150 miles away red flags are going to fly. If one drops their trailer at the terminal and goes off duty and DH's 100 miles home and then DH's back to the terminal and goes back on duty in the same town there is no discrepancy when you look at a logbook.

My interpretation of personal conveyance doesn't throw red flags looking at a logbook.

If that wasn't the case drivers would be DHing everywhere saying they spent the night at their girlfriends house when the truth was they were sleeping in their truck somewhere on the way to their next load. But occifer it was personal conveyance!

To the OP I would ask your company. They are familiar with their auditor and know what they can and can not get away with.

DHing from your home to terminal is without a doubt personal conveyance. Since you live between empty and loaded you are making progression towards your next load. Put it this way, if you parked the truck at the terminal that would definitely would have to be logged from customer to terminal.

It's up to you but I would let my logbook paint a picture.

If you ain't hurting for hours logging going home shouldn't be an issue.

 

Whether or not a driver is paid is irrelevant.

 

This happens because most drivers will get on an internet forum or ask a coworker or manager and ask what the regulations say instead of opening up that little green book and reading the regulations for themselves. The FMCSA website even has "interpretation" and "guidance" which will further clarify most of the regulatory questions these drivers have...but it is EASIER to just ask somebody else who probably doesn't know what the regulations state either....then that driver takes what they heard and runs with it assuming the person they asked knew what they were talking about.

The dirty little secret in this industry is just how FEW have actually read the regulations...doesn't matter if you are talking about drivers, dispatchers, terminal managers, or even the safety directors....few have ever really read through the regulations to know what is actually in there. Even most cops are ignorant when it comes to the FMCSA regulations. The guys who specialize in commercial vehicle enforcement tend to have a better grasp on them...but for the ordinary trooper who happens to stop an occasional truck? A good number of them are clueless too.

 

its not that its so simple, its that it can be interpreted, mis-interpreted, and re-interpreted by each state, DOT cop, and company and makes it confusing


"not to mention, most folks dont like to read"

 

Like Clinton and what the definition of "sex" is?!?

 

That would refer to layover pay, which I get for 34 he restarts. That has nothing to do with PC.

 

So your saying a driver that gets paid a weekly rate isn't eligible for PC because he's paid for the week?

 

Why are we sitting here asking what PC involves when We have Meltom the safety guy? I went back and looked through this again and before I started to type I realized this fact. We need to ask Meltom or Scalemaster as their jobs entale all this.