off duty logging

Being your own boss, has nothing to do with it. The DOT actually wants us to use line 4 when we're at the customer.

Many of us do not log line 4 for the entire time we sit at docks. And you're not required to if you're in the sleeper, or in a break room.

My line 4 logging depends on the customer. Detention or no ? If they pay detention, I stay on line 4.

If not I use line 1 or 2, after logging the check in etc etc.

But none of that answers your question.

BTW...if someone is telling you what to do...you're an employee. Not a contractor.

 

Heck even when I was at Werner we logged arrive line 4 then went line 1 then logged line 3 when we left. And that was paperless logging, Celadon was the same log 15 minutes at each drop or pickup. But I gotta agree with danc694u if they are telling you how to log your an employee not really a subcontractor. Do they get all your loads for you and tell you where you are going or can you turn loads down. The reason they have you" subbing" is so they are relieved of the burden of taxes and insurance on you ie..work comp etc. I think you better start looking at the fine print of your agreement. Just saying

 

This really depends. Are you driving a sleeper truck? Are you doing the physical unloading? When I ran dry van, i always just logged 15 minutes on duty and then went to the sleeper...unless i was doing the unloading, then i logged the entire time as line 4...but of course, i would take a break or two, and log that as line 1 for the break.. My unloads took around 4 hours though.

If you have a sleeper, it's OK to most customers for you to take a nap in it while they are (un)loading you. If you take a nap, you are definitely in the sleeper, and not on duty. Most will even wake you up.

I pull a tanker now and the company expects us to at minimum log 15 minutes on duty to check in and 15 minutes on duty to check out. Thats fine with me, check in/out takes longer with a tanker! I'm being paid hourly on a local run for training. So i'm ok with logging it all as on duty.

When i'm not in training (this co is kind of funny about training if you cant tell), most customers that load/unload for me let me take a nap while they are doing so, and i log it as sleeper. If i do the load or unload myself, I log it as line 4...and I stand there and monitor the process the whole time, sicne its my arse if i have a spill...