Oh no! Another "PC to a truck stop thread"!!

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by drivingmissdaisy, May 19, 2020.

  1. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    What regulation states he has to be on duty in the dock? Here is a definition of on duty, so can you point it out?

    On-duty time means all time from the time a driver begins to work or is required to be in readiness to work until the time the driver is relieved from work and all responsibility for performing work. On-duty time shall include:

    (1) All time at a plant, terminal, facility, or other property of a motor carrier or shipper, or on any public property, waiting to be dispatched, unless the driver has been relieved from duty by the motor carrier;

    (2) All time inspecting, servicing, or conditioning any commercial motor vehicle at any time;

    (3) All driving time as defined in the term driving time;

    (4) All time in or on a commercial motor vehicle, other than:
    (i) Time spent resting in or on a parked vehicle, except as otherwise provided in §397.5 of this subchapter;
    (ii) Time spent resting in a sleeper berth; or
    (iii) Up to 2 hours riding in the passenger seat of a property-carrying vehicle moving on the highway immediately before or after a period of at least 8 consecutive hours in the sleeper berth;​

    (5) All time loading or unloading a commercial motor vehicle, supervising, or assisting in the loading or unloading, attending a commercial motor vehicle being loaded or unloaded, remaining in readiness to operate the commercial motor vehicle, or in giving or receiving receipts for shipments loaded or unloaded;

    (6) All time repairing, obtaining assistance, or remaining in attendance upon a disabled commercial motor vehicle;

    (7) All time spent providing a breath sample or urine specimen, including travel time to and from the collection site, to comply with the random, reasonable suspicion, post-crash, or follow-up testing required by part 382 of this subchapter when directed by a motor carrier;

    (8) Performing any other work in the capacity, employ, or service of, a motor carrier; and

    (9) Performing any compensated work for a person who is not a motor carrier.

    1 Doesn't count as the waiting for dispatch provision isn't satisfied.
    5 Doesn't count as he's not the one loading it. The closest is the "in readiness" clause, but he's not actually waiting on the load if he's out walking his dog.
     
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  3. longhaultransport

    longhaultransport Light Load Member

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    Doesn't matter if he's walking the dog, or jumped in an Uber and went to a movie, bite to eat or home for a quickie.

    Off duty is off duty.
     
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  4. p608

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    If you say so
     
  5. p608

    p608 Road Train Member

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    You have to show at least 15 min loading, the driver is responsible for safe loading
     
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  6. longhaultransport

    longhaultransport Light Load Member

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    How do I do that with a drop and pick?
     
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  7. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Again, cite regulation.
     
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  8. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    One word only on your PC explanation-
    Facilities

    That's it. PC is interpretation. You want to leave yourself as much room as possible.

    You do not need to show a specific amount of time for anything.

    3 clean level 1 in three years CA, AZ, WA. Do what you feel is best.

    In hell would i drive the wrong way to a safe haven as well.
     
  9. p608

    p608 Road Train Member

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    Your problem, if it comes off the trailer the driver is at fault, and you have to log your pretrip
     
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  10. longhaultransport

    longhaultransport Light Load Member

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    What does that have to do with the discussion about being off duty while your trailer is being loaded?

    I've picked up hundreds of preloaded security sealed trailers, without the ability to see inside.

    How does a pre-trip help in that situation?
     
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  11. drivingmissdaisy

    drivingmissdaisy Medium Load Member

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    Pls cite the FMCSR stating this.

    And how does this work on a preloaded D&H? I'm not responsible for the contents and loading of a preloaded sealed trailer that I pick up.

    The trailer that I was loading was the same one I had pretripped earlier in the day and had unloaded. No need to re-pretrip the same equipment.
     
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