Us express and variant are technically one company now, and they both have bad reputations.
100% too good to be true especially since i rarely see either company's truck in good shape.
300-400 miles a day means turn and burn multiple pick and drops but you're also in a congested area, so now you have to factor in losing pay to traffic.
You're not hourly so if you dont move you dont get paid.
Im going to guess that .80 cpm pay scale includes the average of all accessories pay, not a flat rate.
Ok, this sounds too good to be true.
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by strider1500, Dec 11, 2025 at 11:23 AM.
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I won't argue with that. I hope it woks for everyone that uses that formula. I really do. It took me a couple of months to get the 36 hours of detention pay one customer in CA generated.Gearjammin' Penguin Thanks this.
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Maybe that team pay.
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.40CPM a piece seems more in line with what companies want to pay.
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Even worse is that they are both now owned by Knight/Swift holdings
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Everything sounds like it could be legit except for the mileage and no forced NYC. The math on the miles doesn't add up at all. If you averaged 300 miles per day, the low end of what they say you should expect, that's 1,500 miles total over 5 days, the high end of what they say you should expect. See the problem?
Basically, they're telling you that you don't HAVE to drive NYC, but if you refuse, you won't be making anywhere near those numbers because that's where their freight goes. Of course, if you do drive NYC, you won't be making it either because of traffic and difficulty finding the customer.strider1500 Thanks this. -
Your ad says 80 cpm for a new driver right out of school. The average mileage advertised is 1100 to 1500 miles weekly. It also says 300 to 400 miles daily. With a little arithmetic, you're talking about $240 - $320 dollars daily. A 5 day work week, shows an earning potential of $1600 gross, but that's provided you get 400 miles daily. I'll shoot lower and say you get 300 miles daily. Which will be around $1200 gross. Once your insurance and Uncle Sam get done with you, it'll probably leave you with 800 or 900 dollars. To me, this type of local gig isn't worth it. Most drivers that want home daily are not going to make great money.
When you get into trucking, you don't pay attention to cpm when you're talking about pay. You pay attention the miles advertised and the freight lanes. If you want to be home frequently, then you take this job, but you're going to sacrifice some money. If you want money, you get out here and burn up these highways.
OTR is the easiest path to good, steady money. I know everyone will talk about LTL, fuel hauling, and such, but it ain't that easy to get to those jobs, and even in good times, they aren't all that high in abundance.MSWS Thanks this. -
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