On-Board Scales?

You might try marketing to the frac. sand hualing companies. The loading I did could be off by 5000# sometimes. I told the guy one day I need just 41 K # just to finish off the stage. He loaded 51 K #. Two of the places I loaded more or less "eye balled" the loading. We never had time to weigh unless the load was to be dropped of the rolling day. If I loaded from the silos in Longview it was even worse! They only cared about their companies trucks. If we took a long time to get back guess what crappy loads where in the future.
While getting loaded at times ten trucks would be in line. If we didn't get enough then you had to pull back around right in front of the others that were waiting..NOT SOMETHING DRIVERS LIKED. That field in my experience needs this system. We always weighed before we left but it was a big waste of time.
That said never once did I ever turn around to drop off the extra weight. But many times I did not get the full 48K # so it would have helped.

Good luck I know how tough if is to be in sales.

 

Owning my truck, I know what my limits are and where to place the load (flatbed/stepdeck) so I am usually right on the money each time. As for the van guys, it is a crap shoot as they can load that box however they want to, and usually do. I have been overweight 3 times and all were pulling a van trailer. I could have gone back and had the load reworked, but I just dodged the scales (never over 800lbs heavy on an axle and never was over gross)

An onboard scale would be best for gravel, hopper and tanker trucks I think as their loads fluxuate the most.

 

I myself use Air-Weigh on my tractor and trailer...when calibrated it seems dead on to what a cat scale says..and my tractor is 21,500 wet (due to ICT sleeper) so im pretty limited to how much i can throw in the reefer (just bout 40,000) to be safe. i would say i have had to rework about 4 loads in the past year.( seems meat packing plants cant get it right at times)..so any new proven system would help out i would imagine. or like SHC says cruise around the scale... done that before...lol

 

How often do I get loaded wrong> NEVER if the declared weight is correct and I am on level ground. Changing the load isn't that big a deal, either the crane does it or the machine gets moved. When I move general freight it's pretty hard to screw up loading 46,000 of drywall, lumber, brick (choose your commodity).

You have NO practical experience with either system and yet you are telling ME how ineffective and inaccurate MY system is....I realize you're in sales and that's your job but please, show some respect to those of us that have been doing it this way since Christ was a cowboy with out a problem.

 

I have the built in Weight. Loaded in Calif a few weeks ago and I was around 33800 on my Drives, I had on my paperwork from Nestles in the Riverside CA area that the load in the box was 45600, That left me good for 500 or so pounds to the good on my Tandems, Boy was I wrong. the load was 47600. and I was over weight! Ended up running the load all the way to De-kalb IL Made it but I was a bit nervous. No more! I don't care if I have to go 200 miles back, I'll do it Not worth the ticket if you are caught.

 

When you're talking about "Heavy Haul" and permits, yeah sometimes we'll "pad" the weight IF we can but if we're loading to max gross for the combination then there's no or little room left for padding the permits.

The other thing to remember is padding permits costs money as most states charge by the ton.

 

Githum don't let this conversation turn you away. This is how many of the guys with lots of experience communicate. They/we get told what to do by the state and many other sources what to do, how to do,when to and many of these sources know little about anything and almost nothing about trucking. Even though you asked for advice this is indeed a natural response. Believe it or not you eventually will get the info you asked for just dodge the bullets. Maybe asked like this:

Which commodities are never/often not preweighed?

Who has loads that shift on them and why?

When was your last overweight ticket.....gross or axle?

What factors in loading are out of you control but could cause overloading?

What are the pros/cons of on board scales? THEN JUST LISTEN NOTHING MORE, THIS IS WHERE YOUR PROBLEM CAME IN

Also maybe ask the "scale MASTER" I mean just listen the that #### name. They have been the one to write us up. Even though they will no idea how to fix it they have seen it.

Or just wait long enough on here your questions were direct but you jumped in afterwards just stay out and let them answer. I am very interested in you product but I will admit that a pressure gauge will get the job done also.