On Duty vs. Off Duty while loading tankers

Well to me that 70 is just as important to preserve as the 14. You can stop the 14 hr. clock by going to Sleeper Birth status for at least 2 hrs. Now, drivers can, "make a point" and stay on duty as that might be the "legal" thing to do, but don't complain when the paycheck is small because your always out of hours.

 

Maybe they are confusing it with sleeper berth. Plus your not really off duty unless you are free leave or go do something you want to like go to the movies or play golf.

 

You say ‘5-6 hours’ as if it’s common. Apparently, it must be rare for you to burn through your 70. My thoughts would be, after 5 or 6 hours of waiting, to be able to pound out 11 hours straight after recovering a full 10. You can’t do that if you’ve been fiddle farting around waiting on duty.

If I sit 6, I will be taking 10, and without fail be able to run 11 and pound that ground. Can’t be done waiting on duty.

 

Any time periods longer than 2 hours can freeze your 14 hour clock IF YOU SPEND IT IN SLEEPER, no place else. You can spend 2, 3, 4 or more in sleeper and then later you just need 10 minus what you last spent in sleeper (2,3,4, whatever) to satisfy the 10 hours you would normally take off-duty/sleeper. It's called the split sleeper berth rule. Sleeper is a type of off-duty, but only Sleeper Berth counts, not off-duty. It complicates your HOS using split-sleeper and it is very easy to have an egregious HOS violation if you screw up trying to use split sleeper.

 

No, it isn't 10 minus 4. It has to be a minimum of 7 hours in the sleeper to complete a split break. And two hours or more off-duty will stop your clock. Whether you can be off-duty at the dock is another issue which is why it's probably better to be in the sleeper to avoid any problems.

 

Hos split sleeper explained.

https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/hours-service/summary-hours-service-regulations

 

Unless rules have changed recently.

You're required to be on duty when at shipper and receiver. Which obviously eats hours.

I don't know the exact wording in the rule. And maybe with the new split sleeper. There might be a way to circumvent the rule. Saving hours.

I'm local so I'm not up to date on the latest hos. I don't have to worry about them.

 

5-6 hourd to load a tanker? Who takes that long, and what product?