On duty work?

Discussion in 'Tanker, Bulk and Dump Trucking Forum' started by Thull, Jun 15, 2016.

Do you stay on duty while loading/unloading?

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  1. Mudguppy

    Mudguppy Degenerate Immoralist

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    Well, I have a unit from J J Keller in my ride, and it doesn't count off duty against anything but your 14 once you first log on-duty for the day....
     
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  3. Mark Kling

    Mark Kling Technology Contributor

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    Some companies will let you log Off Duty while at the shipper/consignee after you show arrival. They should have a letter in your book showing this. I normally logged 15 and then off duty so long as I was in the cab/sleeper. If on dock then line 4.
     
  4. Mudguppy

    Mudguppy Degenerate Immoralist

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    But when logged Off Duty, did it still count down against your 70, or just your daily 14? This is the first I've ever heard Off Duty still ticking down against the 70-hr. clock....
     
  5. Starboyjim

    Starboyjim Road Train Member

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    Nobody is likely to cheat out here in the open, that's for sure.
     
  6. Starboyjim

    Starboyjim Road Train Member

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    Off duty does not count down against your 70hr clock. It does count your 14hr clock down.

    You do not lose the hours off your 70hr clock when you're off-duty loading or unloading. Or Sleeper. It just pushes the clock back, the hours are still yours.
     
  7. Cat sdp

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    A company policy can go farther than the dot rules . Like requiring a pre/post trip etc......

    And I'm sure if joe blow mega carrier called an eobr company and said they wanted changes the software would be updated to the stricter company rules.
     
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  8. Starboyjim

    Starboyjim Road Train Member

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    Cat sdp is good with this post. Companies have quite a bit of flexibility within DOT regulations.

    Some companies start your drive clock when your wheel start turning. Some don't. Some companies give you a 2 mile radius before starting your drive clock, some don't. Some companies give drivers a line 5, personal conveyance, 1 hour or whatever. Some don't. I'm sure there are more examples, but I know these to be the case.

    I am OK with the Qualcomm unit Conway/XPO uses although it's still the MCP100, a POS device. Mostly because it records my change of duty and location. The hours are OK with me because I don't really want, most days, to run much harder than 11 hrs drivetime. As for the 14hr clock, it's only been an issue about once every 2 or 3 years, so I don't much have time to care about problems that small. That's my drive conditions, though, I just do OTR, no fingerprints on boxes, and very rarely accept multiple stop loads. I can see where it would come up, but 14 hours makes a pretty long work day. Especially if you're getting paid by the mile.

    I see trucks sitting in traffic in metro peak traffic, I see them lined up at ports, I see trucks lined up at grocery warehouses (awful places, I try not to do groceries) and other places. And I sure hope these drivers aren't getting paid by the mile, or if they are, it's a nice big number.

    I once sat for 6 hours at a CH Robinson warehouse in Laredo - fit to be tied.

    I once sat for 6 hours at a West Rock facility, the one in Dallas. These fools were actually loading rolls of paper into my trailer as they came off the production line! That's what the wait was about. I've seen this before, companies schedule trucks in before their loads are ready and have the truck sitting there so they can ship product the minute it's finished. My, how I hate them. Clock killers, income killers, and complete - well, you know.
     
  9. rabbiporkchop

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    That's not true with Werner. I drove a Werner truck from Pittston Pennsylvania to Buffalo New York and I stopped every 30 minutes at 7 minutes after the hour and 37 minutes after the hour punching myself off duty restroom break and then precisely at 8 minutes after the hour and 38 minutes after the hour I would punch myself driving. According to Werner's computer it only took me two and a half hours to get to Buffalo New York (266 miles) In a 65 mile an hour truck even though it took me 5 hours in reality
     
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    Reason for edit: 266 miles
  10. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    My compnay requires me to log on duty, line 4 or else if I hit demurrage time ($30. hr) they won't pay it. I normally know where I'll be there long enough to collect. Otherwise I usually log 1 hr to unload or less to load.
     
  11. Starboyjim

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    Justa, we all know the requirement to log 8hrs consecutive sleeper berth, right? Funny thing about my Qualcomm, it'll log any combination of sleeper and off-duty for 10hrs and reset my 14. Of course, it doesn't have the capacity to write DOT violations, either.
     
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