On Training

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Jimmy P, Sep 15, 2010.

  1. Jimmy P

    Jimmy P Bobtail Member

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    2009 Trucker Deaths-503

    2009 Combined Iraq/Afghanistan US Troop Deaths-466

    Military Basic Training-8 weeks strenuous plus specialty

    New Truck Driver Training-Inconsistent. The trainer may or may not spend most of the time in the berth while the trainee is driving.

    Is anyone else making this connection?

    JP
     
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  3. milskired

    milskired Road Train Member

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    Military basic training 8 weeks? Army? Strenuous??? Really??? Just sayin

    Would you rather be getting hazed and have to list off any question your trainer asks you in an instant and if not your doing some sort of physical punishment....
     
  4. canuck in da truck

    canuck in da truck Road Train Member

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    hmmm so does that mean we should be glad we werent driving during 1939-1945?:biggrin_25526:
     
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  5. milskired

    milskired Road Train Member

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    LOL:biggrin_25523:
     
  6. lego1970

    lego1970 Medium Load Member

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    No, I don't.
     
  7. ac120

    ac120 Road Train Member

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    There is no connection. In 2002 the American Automobile Association found that 80% of car-truck crashes originated with the car driver. Daniel Blower (The Relative Contribution of Truck Drivers and Passenger-Vehicle Drivers to Truck Passenger-Vehicle Traffic Crashes, UMTRI Research Review, April-June 1999, V. 30, No. 2) concluded that "passenger-vehicle drivers commit more of the driving errors in fatal [car-truck] crashes rather than the other way around." In Canada, the Ontario Ministry of Transportation often reports similar numbers (in 1999 they came up with 71.6%). FMCSA found that "of all fatal truck-passenger vehicles crashes from 1994 to 1998, 35% had a contributing factor related to the commercial driver and 65% had a passenger-vehicle contributing factor."

    And on and on. There's a pattern here.

    My own truck driving taught me that AAA erred on the low side. I think Blower was right. I'd guess that most truck drivers see more dangerous moves by car drivers. And even though I no longer drive big trucks, I still see more 4-wheeler stupidity than 18-wheeler stupidity. A lot more.

    All of the above is why, IMO, truck driving is a high-fatality occupation: them little people is seriously trying to kill us. In one study (a poll of 1,100 (non-CDL) American drivers), "the polling company found a widespread belief among respondents that they are not to blame for bad driving." (Everyone's a good driver, right? Just ask them.) But it's not because the trainer slept while the trainee drove.
     
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  8. M915A4

    M915A4 Medium Load Member

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    Im sorry you cant compare the too,that's ridiculous..lol

    How many troops are in those countries.....How many were wounded...lose of limb,traumatic brain injuries? ect...

    Never mind the 24/7 paranoia that someone is going to kill you,or trying to.

    I see where your coming from,yes driving is a very dangerous job,so is deep see fishing ect.With every job there comes a risk,just some more then others
     
  9. Jimmy P

    Jimmy P Bobtail Member

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    Of course not. What I am saying is that we need a more standardized training procedure so that the general public and other drivers can depend on a minimum level of competency and professionalism. TRAINERS SHOULD BE HIRED TO TRAIN ONLY and be well paid for their talents and effort. Instead some, but not all company trainers are milking these new drivers to run up team miles while they sleep in the berth with these new drivers at best learning how to point the rig in a straight line and at worst picking up the incompetent trainers bad habits.

    I know that when I get back on the road I don't want some poorly trained driver behind me on 6% grade with his rig stuck in neutral and his brakes turning to a gaseous mush.

    But ya'll points are well taken and the feedback appreciated.
     
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  10. M915A4

    M915A4 Medium Load Member

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    I get what your saying,In the military to be a Lanes(combat driving course,ect) trainer you have to go to a trainers course before hand.Then you can teach the class the appropriate way.

    If the trainer himself has bad habits or doesn't care,guess what, it will get passed on to the next guy.
     
  11. milskired

    milskired Road Train Member

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    1 of those people right here. Injured in combat on 10-28-09
     
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