How about releasing 50 million Barrels from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. Mr. Bush only had it filled to capacity in 2001 to 700 million barrels, I think that would provide some relief for a while. What the hell do we have the reserve anyhow for in the 1st place?? Clinton did it, and it brought the prices down, but not Big Oil Mr. Bush!! He would rather see people suffer and go broke!!
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Discussion in 'Truckers Strike Forum' started by kilroy2963, Apr 17, 2008.
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This has been pounded to death.
Rather than do it all again...here's a link for you. A few FACTS about oil reserves.
http://www.thetruckersreport.com/tr...-saudis-to-discuss-oil-crisis.html#post381077 -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Petroleum_Reserve#Filling_the_SPR
This is physical oil that we have stored in tanks around the country. -
Facilities
The SPR management office is located in New Orleans, Louisiana.
The reserve is stored at four sites on the Gulf of Mexico, each located near a major center of petrochemical refining and processing. Each site contains a number of artificial caverns created in salt domes below the surface. (Note: Capacity numbers may be out of date.)
- Bryan Mound - Freeport, Texas. Has a capacity of 226 million barrels (36,000,000 m³).
- Big Hill - Winnie, Texas. Has a capacity of 160 million barrels (25,000,000 m³).
- West Hackberry - Lake Charles, Louisiana. Has a capacity of 219 million barrels (35,000,000 m³).
- Bayou Choctaw - Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Has a capacity of 72 million barrels (11,000,000 m³).
- Richton, Mississippi. In February 2007, Secretary of the Energy Department Samuel Bodman announced the creation of a new site. This new site is currently facing some opposition.
- Weeks Island - Iberia Parish, Louisiana (Decommissioned 1999) Capacity of 72 million barrels (11,000,000 m³). This facility was a conventional room and pillar near-surface mine salt mine, formerly owned by Morton Salt. In 1993, a sinkhole formed on the site, allowing fresh water to intrude into the mine.
Because of the mine's construction in salt deposits, fresh water would erode the ceiling, potentially causing the structure to fail. The mine was backfilled with salt-saturated brine. This process, which allowed for recovery of 98% of the petroleum stored in the facility, reduced the risk of further freshwater intrusion, and helped prevent the remaining oil from leaking into the aquifer that is located over the salt dome. -
While the Federal Government may actually own these "reserves". They do not own the refineries. Releasing the "reserves" below market value is the same as welfare.
"Reserves" of the nature you spoke of in the WiKi article, are tapped on a daily basis for use by the oil industry. You can't have duplication of holding areas this big, they mearly keep levels to agreed amounts. If you'll note the location of these "reserves". You'll see how it works, hand in hand with our current refineries.
So, the reserves you noted are used every day. They are replenished, everyday. But they are not the "true" reserves. They are mearly staging areas for pumped crude oil.
And while they may be refered to a "Strategic" there's nothing strategic about having a target painted on your ###.
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I dont know about that, I understand Wiki isn't always correct, but I read basically the same thing at the DOE website. According to the DOE, with a emergency order by the President the DOE can begin delivering oil into the market place within 13 days.
What your saying and what I'm reading are in total conflict of each other. Some links in conjunction with what your saying would be helpful in order to read more in depth about the subject.
http://www.fossil.energy.gov/programs/reserves/
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Quick Facts and Frequently Asked Questions
http://www.fossil.energy.gov/programs/reserves/spr/spr-facts.html -
[FONT=Palatino, Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][SIZE=+1]Geological Survey calls find largest reserves outside Alaska[/SIZE][/FONT]
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10:31 pm Eastern
[/SIZE] [FONT=Palatino, Times New Roman, Georgia, Times, serif]By Jerome R. Corsi[/FONT]
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A shale formation stretching North Dakota and Montana may have an estimated 3 to 4.3 billion barrels of technically recoverable oil, according to a U.S. Geological Survey assessment.
Known as the Bakken Formation, the find would make the recoverable oil in North Dakota and Montana the largest U.S. [COLOR=blue ! important][FONT="][COLOR=blue ! important][FONT="]oil [/FONT][/FONT][FONT="][COLOR=blue ! important][FONT="]reserves[/FONT][/color][/FONT][/color][/color] outside Alaska.
Map of Bakken Formation in northern United States, courtesy Grand Forks Herald
The recently released assessment shows a 2,800 percent, or 28-times increase in the amount of oil recoverable from the Bakken Formation, compared to the agency's 1995 estimate of 151 million barrels of oil.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=61488
Killroy, Check this link and it will really make you wonder what the hell is going on?Why are we paying 4.00 a gallon for fuel?
[yt="Lindsey Williams - The Energy Non-Crisis - Part 1 of 8"]NbakN7SLdbk[/yt] -
I read about that a while back. I personally think this is nothing more then price gouging by big oil. If you read about the oil reserves around the world it would blow your mind!! We have enough oil in the Strategic Reserve to last a year, but they wont release not one barrel.
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13 days, is a no brainer. You simply pull "company" reserves offline. Mark it Government reserves, sell it below market value...simple enough.
The oil companies STILL make money. They couldn't care less WHO'S oil they are refining. They still charge to refine it. They still charge to deliver it. They still charge to sell it.
As I'm sure there are many ex oil field hands on this board (as I am). I'm sure, that 95% of us witnessed first hand, the capping of oil wells that were "called" dry holes. aka True Strategic Reserves -
I will agree with you that a *true* reserve is a capped oil well or a untapped deposit. I also believe the fact that we have up to 700million BBL of oil stock piled in these salt mines and such. Whichever way you look at it, if 50 million BBL were released into that market at below cost, it would bring prices down and stabilize the economy.
Until we see the passing of the Bush administration, it is highly unlikely you will see that happen.
The only candidate running for President that so far has addressed this is Mccain.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/04/10/mccain-says-oil-prices-too-high-to-buy-for-spr/?mod=WSJBlog
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