out of drive time but still gotta drive.

As much as I hate I agree with IDrive, not personally just the concept cause I've always believed in doing what's necessary to get the job done but They want to keep pushing all these ridiculous rules down our throats and we still do what we have to to operate and No blow back on anyone. This would keep them from over regulation without some consequences. Make them play by their own rules

 

The company says it's ok unless there's an accident. Then you'll be thrown under the bus and more than likely canned for breaking HOS laws. Personally I don't see anything wrong with driving to a safe location. In the future it would be wise to have a LEO escort you to the nearest safe place.

 

Customer jerks me around like that for seven hours. Hmmm, truck won't start. Stall for another three waiting on wrecker. Bounce.

 

Just a warning, not a violation, so no foul. If you move to get to a safe location to take a break and the qual puts you to driving, as long as you put yourself back on line 1, 2 or 4(if not over 14) within 4 min, you will not have a DOT violation, just a warning but you should not move any further unless one of the copy and pasted exceptions apply...

There are numerous exceptions to these rules, some of these include but are not limited to:[SUP][20][/SUP]

• During adverse weather or emergency driving conditions, drivers are permitted to exceed the 11 hour maximum daily driving time. However, drivers may not extend the 14 hour on duty time. ( up to but not greater than 3 hrs)
• Drivers who venture less than a 100 air-mile radius from the work reporting location are not required to maintain log books (but are not exempt from limits on driving time), provided their employers maintain accurate records of their driving time.
• Drivers who start and stop their work day at the same location for at least the previous 5 work days may drive past the 14 hour mark, for an extra 2 hours, if 11 driving hours are not exceeded. The 16 hour rule extends the work day by two hours, but does not extend the allowable driving hours. The 16 hour rule may be invoked once per 34 hour reset, if the 5 day pattern has been established. The driver must be relieved from work after the 16th hour.
• Drivers for oilfield operations in the petroleum industry, groundwater drilling operations, construction materials, and utility service vehicles are permitted to take a 24-hour restart.
• Retail store drivers who venture less than a 100 air-mile radius are allowed to exceed daily driving limits to make store deliveries from December 10 to December 25, due to the demands of the Christmas shopping season.
• Drivers in Alaska can drive up to 15 hours within a 20-hour period.
• Drivers in Hawaii are not required to maintain log books, provided their employer keeps an accurate record of their driving time.
• Drivers for theatrical or television motion picture productions are exempt if the driver operates within a 100 air-mile radius of the location where the driver reports to and is released from work. These drivers may take an 8 hour break, and are allowed 15 hours on duty.

 

Two words.. Paper Logs

 

Why did he not just go to line one. off duty.. then go back to on duty driving?
Spent 7 hours waiting and you still log this time? Hope you got paid for sitting there.....
Let me rephrase that, you better be paid for sitting there...

 

I hear ya, and that's actually what was happening with a situation I was driving... however, if it can be proved, after the fact, that you are indeed over your 14, and there's a serious injury involved.... your name might, or might not be "defendant" in a criminal trial... but it WILL be "Defendant" in a civil trial, with lots of comas and zeros in the lawsuit..... and you the driver must defend yourself against that sort of thing, because you NEVER know when it'll happen. Anyway, take care, everyone.

 

Nothing you can do in 7 hours is going to change that 14-hour clock from expiring. I like the 8-hour split-sleeper option (if possible). Failing that, I would send the logs dept. a QC message stating that I'm moving to the nearest safe parking after being kicked off private property. That covers me with the company and gives my lawyer some ammo if that drunk hits me.

 

I was reading all the through every post hoping someone would say this. It's true, but the thing about it is that warning goes on your CSA. Which, I know we can all agree is bull feces, but it's true. CSA is also crap.