Out of pocket vs tution reimbursement vs taxes

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  1. MYSTYKRACER

    MYSTYKRACER Medium Load Member

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    So I'm looking at likely paying for driving school at one of the local community colleges here in Houston, TX mostly so I don't have some sort of the commitment coming out of training and I can go where ever the best opportunity presents. School is going to cost about $3500 and I know that can be written off on my taxes at the end of the year.

    I also know a lot of companies offer tuition reimbursement like this deal w/ Schneider that pays out in small increments over a certain time: How to Pay for Truck Driving School

    My question is, if you go w/ a company that has tuition reimbursement does that impact the amount you can write off on your taxes? In my own case I'll probably be starting school in July or August and would finish three months later likely to move on to a company specific training for another 1 - 2 months. There's a good chance I wouldn't start seeing tuition reimbursement payments until early next year. I would assume at that point it would just be considered typical "taxable income".
     
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  3. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    You were paid back by company. Taxes are not allowing double windfall so to speak.

    I just let the costs fly. Does not do much with taxes of the time in those days. Long ago. My weekly withholding was designed to disregard whatever positive taxes each year imposed by IRS, State etc and still have potentially a 5 figure savings at Zero interest coming back to me.

    People jeered at me for zero.

    I hear crickets now in today's zero interest banking and so on.
     
  4. Brandt

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    I don't think can write training off as Tax deduction. They changed the tax laws for 2018. we get the NEW standard deduction that about it. Their is no unreimbursed businessexpense on the tax form anymore. They dis not change the law they just changed the tax forms. So O/O can still write stuff off. You don't even get Per Diem anymore. If your a company driver the company has do it as reimbursement thing so you get the tax advantage.
     
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  5. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    2018 is actually a form of tax increase on the People. We are paid better each week a little bit. But come tax time... you get what you get and notice what you do not.

    In 2001 our Per Diem was 13700 for 306 service days per deduction rules. In addition to withholding from both of us. Taxes against 67 became a windfall of sorts.

    This year we are not taxable. However we pay sales, fuels, etc.
     
  6. MYSTYKRACER

    MYSTYKRACER Medium Load Member

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    Yeah I noticed last year when we did our taxes the standard deduction was higher. My wife had been going to school full time at HCC and we had been writing off her tuition but I noticed last year it didn't exceed the standard deduction so like you were saying, we got what we got what we got and that was it!

    Honestly though I'm more curious about the reimbursement part b/c I don't want to end up having to owe instead of getting a refund however small!
     
  7. Ridgeline

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    Why would you be able to write off her education expenses?

    Was it related to her job/vocation/profession?
     
  8. x1Heavy

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    For 5 years we learned to stay at 18000 here in arkansas after deductions. It was a real bad lean 5 years. 20 dollars hurt.

    At 17500 net after deductions against Arkansas taxes we got 100 dollars back.

    But if we worked up and beyond say 19000 net income that year its a 100 dollar bill to Arkansas. Pray tell where that would come from.

    So we would work and carefully added up our income and simply stop at 17500 then wait for tax person in end of Jan.

    We managed to develop and continue on after those 5 years. Now we don't mind what the state wants. Uncle sam can fend for hisself well enough.

    For those wondering what happened those 5 years to bother over 100 dollars... cancer is what. We committed everything that was loose into the fight.

    Her care came out to a cool 1.3 million all in.

    We got 15 years out of that. You can have 5 lifetimes and never repay that.
     
  9. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    In the old days you could deduct training cost IN YOUR CURRENT OCCUPATION.

    Tuition Reimbursement is NOT income. It is Reimbursement. Not taxable, no imact on your taxes.
     
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  10. MYSTYKRACER

    MYSTYKRACER Medium Load Member

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    Yes, she went back to school for an Associates degree in interior design as a career change. Before 2018 tuition expenses of that nature were 100% deductible but you had to itemize, attach form 1098-T showing the tuition cost AND your itemized deductions needed to exceed your standard deduction. Before 2018 ours did but as was pointed out above the tax law changed in 2018 and our itemization didn't exceed the standard deduction last year.

    Itemizing education expenses used to be almost as valuable as the mortgage interest deduction. People who could afford to pay for their kids to go to college out of pocket wrote this off pretty regularly but I think that's all changed now.
     
  11. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    In 2016 everybody's standard deduction was doubled which practically did away with many commom deductions unless they exceeded the higher SD
     
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