out of school, employed 4 mo, now scared of lay-off

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by msfern29, Mar 17, 2011.

  1. msfern29

    msfern29 Light Load Member

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    I'm about ready to panic!
    I did the 4 week crash course school, got on with a small local company in the oilfield hauling water. over all I'm liking it, think I'm doing ok for newbie green horn.
    Is small outfit I work for, maybe 30 employees total, half are drivers. At safety meeting this morning, was talk of cut backs and down sizing. Announced they are going to lay-off 4 employees. (so far, not me, thank god).
    My biggest worry is finding another job. I haven't been here long enough that I have experience. How will this effect my hire-ability? I've been advised keep first job for at least a yr, even if crappy, but what if I get laid off?
    I'm hoping things work out here, but realistic, I should watch for the worst also. I don't want 'job hop', I'm learning from these people, but I do have a student loan to pay for school to do this career.
    Do I need to be worried? Will this hurt my resume if I do get laid off this soon out of school? Is this common in oil & gas patch, just breath and keep trying to do good job?
    If I do get laid off, think I will try to stay local level, several reasons, but I'm not against OTR.
    Thanks y'all
     
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  3. xlsdraw

    xlsdraw Road Train Member

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    I wouldn't panic but I would start looking for something else.
     
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  4. Rerun8963

    Rerun8963 Road Train Member

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    you say the layoff does NOT include you....but this is for now.....

    you can sit back and continue to do your job, and maybe on whatever time off you get, make in person calls and explain that although you like your job, that there are layoffs coming, and you want a job not be laid off..

    now, whether or not that gets you another job, who knows, but at least you are trying..

    yes, 6 months to 1 year is ideal, but a layoff of no fault on your part, should not hinder you to find another job.


    personally, i would just continue to do my job EACH DAY and DO NOT give them any reason to lay you off, like, being late, an accident, not doing the job properly, leaving work early, you know, "play the game" and "play to win"...let the "slackers" get nailed in the layoff lottery...
     
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  5. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Well, certainly you are old enough to know by now that there are no guarantees in life, right ? So, we deal with life's calamaties the best we can. Usually, our best laid plans backfire, and it's how we deal with it that makes us stronger. Perfect world: go to school, get driving job with good pay, live happily ever after. In-perfect world: go to school, get driving job, get laid off 4 months later. :mmad:
     
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  6. celticwolf

    celticwolf Road Train Member

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    I 2nd what rerun said. Play to win, but cover your butt. Many times the folks who think they are safe and just do a job are the ones you are gone.. don't go overboard, but do you best to not been seen slacking either. The obvious get cut too.
     
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    123456 Road Train Member

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    Besides,

    noobies make less $$$,

    let them lay off the big-buck makers !!!!
     
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  8. chompi

    chompi Road Train Member

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    I third Reruns motion for future plans!

    You live in SW Kansas no shortage for hauling the moo cows!
     
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  9. Scarecrow03

    Scarecrow03 Road Train Member

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    Just to give you a slight ray of hope, I was once hired for a local job on a temporary basis originally. There is a small company in my home town that has a pretty good reputation as far as good pay and equipment. I had hounded them and hounded them to get the job. Finally they got sick of hearing from me every day and seeing me in their office once a week that they offered me the job temporarily. At the time I was hired, the other drivers were working 7 days a week and had been for 6 weeks. I jumped right in and worked for nearly 4 weeks before I was scheduled a day off. The company hauled limestone in a pneumatic tanker to a roofing materials plant. During the summer, roofing plants run 24/7 to keep up with the demand of their customers. I had previous experience with pneumatics, so there was no training necessary per say. They did have me follow another guy for a few trips just to learn the ropes of their paperwork and how the loading procedures went.

    After about two months, the owner of the company who also drove when needed was waiting to load in front of me. I got out and talked to him and he proceeded to tell me that we would soon be loading at a facility closer to the plant. I asked him if that was going to be the end of my time driving for him. He replied that I wasn't going anywhere unless I wanted to. He had other drivers that needed to go before me.

    The moral of the story mirrors what Rerun said. Do your job, EVERY day, and do your job well. The right person or persons will notice and when/if the time to lay off drivers comes around you just might be kept on board. Small companies like the one I worked for don't care as much about seniority as they do the quality of work their employees (read: drivers) perform in addition to their reliability.
     
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  10. Ranger70

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    Listen to Rerun,Chompi,123456 and Scarecrow, they usually give out great advice. Hope for the best prepare for the worst and do your job the best that you can. It will be like pulling teeth to do your best now, but now is when you have to. Give the slackers enough rope and they will hang themselves. Keep your head up, it will work out. Better 4 months than 4 weeks or 4 days it could be worse.
     
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  11. msfern29

    msfern29 Light Load Member

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    no, the lay off did not include me, at the start of business today we had about 30 employees, at the end of business, we had about 26. 4 left the shop unemployed, and I was not one of them.
    I am Assuming "for now", just cause economy sucks, and once they start downsizing and cutting back, it rarely stops till the doors close on a small business. know few folks in non-trucking corprate companies with fingers crossed and resume' out wondering how much they going to keep cutting. it's everywhere.

    as far as 'each day, do not give them any reason to lay you off', isn't that newbie hell for the first year anyway??? imo: all those things you listed, should not be done in the first place, you just shouldn't treat your employer that way; h*ll no for someone new on the job; and OMG H ell no for someone not only new to the job, but new to the industry/career.
    all I can do for now is go in daily, do what I can, pray things work out and I can find something little more stable. I just worried how it's going to look and how much trouble I'm going to have for making a poor choice for a start out job.


    guarantees? all I asked was how accurate the info given to me when I was in school training that now I am beyond screwed cause I took a job that turned out to fall thru before I could get my first year in. I said Nothing about guarantee.
    I said nothing about "perfect". I did not blame, accuse, or whine. I said nothing about thinking or expecting this job to last more than 6 months to a year, much less "happily ever after". I re-read it several times even to check. I just not reading what your reading I guess.
    I "should be old enough by now"? I should not going anywhere near that insult. I am old enough to know a passive slam when I hear one, and by staff, that's not just passive insult, it's a hint. I got it ;)
    (for those who don't know a passive slam when they hear one: "should be old enough by now" means: you should be old enough, grow up. you should act your age, but your not. you should behave more maturely. 'now' is an added express, in bolder verbal bashing, the phrase 'its about time' is used. check out the book "the gentle art of verbal self defense". I am old enough I don't play head games anymore! you speak and act drama, you get drama.)

    wish I hadn't started this tread! I thought other newbies might run into same thing. it was drilled into me at school how if can't hold first driving job for 6 months to a year, you can kiss your driving career good-bye. Period. no if's and's or but's. guess I'll take the hit for being a loser who accepted a job with company that's downsizing and couldn't hold the job for minimum of 6 months required in this industry and find out. I should have known was a bust job when the school insisted there was no way a local company would hire someone right out of school to drive, much less a local company pulling tanker. guess that should have been my first red flag.

    isn't a "when/if", it happened. standard business, your company starts laying off and uses excuse of downsizing, you wonder just how tight the belt is going to get.
    someone said it perfect on another thread, don't remember who. compared oil / gas patch to chicken. 'some days it's chicken, some days it feathers'. I know rig hands have lot of "on/off". didn't know drivers had same issues. my question about "is this common" was..."is this feathers?"
    yes, I think the only thing saved me is I'm trying so hard I'm making them nuts with questions. I volunteer to go get loads after business slows down afternoons on days I'm dispatching. I've stopped trying to carry tools back and forth since I've been walking to work. couple of the guys showed me an old pickup bed tool box I can keep them in on my day off since I'm still slip seating. I do ask for rides to work, but the one's usually willing to give a ride are consistently late, so, stuck walking unless weather really bad.

    like pulling teeth to do my best now? like I'm not doing my best? or that I'm not trying to do my best? I wasn't cut this morning. 4 others were. I think the only thing that saved my butt is that it is not pulling teeth to get me to try my best. if it were, I do not think my post would be about 'how bad of a hit will my resume take if I get laid off', would have been more like "cant believe they fired me for acting like some of the other drivers" (tho that has already been implied in this thread)


    I'm sorry, if people really act as bad as what is implied...yes, they should be fired! not laid off, no chance of coming back, no unemployment, just flat fired! yes I have a very bad attitude towards today's "modern" work force. no I will not go to class to learn how to deal with their candy little tushy. (only if a job was to make me)
    being late, an accident, not doing the job properly, leaving work early - those things used to be grounds for dismissal, no question, no excuse. excessive sick days, doing job excessive slow (ride the clock, or in this case dodge loads), 'back talk' the boss, and 'no call/no show' also used to grounds for dismissal.
    guess that's just asking to much from the average person. I'd be ashamed of myself to behave like that. guess I'm not average.

    for those who answered and gave your opinion on how career damaging an early layoff right out of school might be: thank you

    for those on the staff that dropped the hint about my being immuture and whiney expecting everafter, and whatever else: I got the hint. a private message would have been less rude than public insult. Thank you.

    good luck drivers, y'all take care and be safe.
     
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