Out of service orders

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by dieselbear, Feb 19, 2009.

  1. PharmPhail

    PharmPhail Road Train Member

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    So Dieselbear, what happened to this guy anyway? Was there any mercy?
     
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  3. madbunny

    madbunny Medium Load Member

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    I never been put out of service seen trucks that should have been and rolled through the scale before me.

    My question is did you catch him before he rolled back on the interstate? Or did you just watch him leave? :biggrin_25517:

    Personally I've seen more company own tractor trailers that should have been put out of service than O/O. Maybe that's because you might have to really inspect most O/O than company driven vehicles. There are several companies that have told drivers sitting with OOS once everyone is gone leave.
     
  4. dieselbear

    dieselbear Road Train Member

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    It was a Level III inspection (driver only) the first time. So there was no need for road service. He was out for multiple reasons a driver can be put out of service. He was issued a small citation ($60) and I explained the OOS in great detail to him. Even told him not to violate because the night before we took a driver for a ride to the jail after violating OOS order. The citation I wrote him was a hundreds of dollars cheaper than is called for the violation he had.

    Six (6) minutes after he thought the scale closed, kicked the lights on and slamming gears. I was coming back to the scale because I forgot something. As I was coming up on the scale I see him slamming gears out the ramp. Caught him about 1 1/2 from the scale. Then a vehicle inspection as well, located 2 OOS violations on the trailer. 4 citations and missed unload time. Guy was O/O and then called road service, called the shipper to send another truck to make the delivery which was probably going to be quite a few hours late. Talking with him after the second stop, yes times were tough on him, and I understand that. That was why he got the little citation the first go around. But at that point he walked away with signaificantly more in fines.
     
  5. Lilbit

    Lilbit Road Train Member

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    My dad maintains his CDL to this day, and is on the contact list here in WI with the state patrol. If a driver is put OOS (not the truck) my dad can be contacted to drive the person's truck to a truck stop and the driver is able to drive my dad's car. I have had to go along a couple of times to drive my dad's car due to license suspensions. It's only scale houses within a certain distance of where my dad lives that he will go to though. I can't remember how much my dad charges for this, but he does get paid by the driver or company to do this.
     
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  6. GasHauler

    GasHauler Master FMCSA Interpreter

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    I don't except any excuses. If the truck or driver is OOS then it's a danger to me until it's fixed. If I was to ever get an OSS and violate it my company would fire me before I could hang the phone up. So again the trick is to catch the items before they become a problem. And if you're an O/O and don't have the funding to keep repairs up then you need to come off the road and sell your truck to someone that does..
     
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  7. rjones56

    rjones56 Heavy Load Member

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    Not worth the trouble.I would sit until I could legally go.Several times over the years I have been placed out of service.Several times Mr.DOT has let me know he was leaving and what the rest of his schedule was so that I would know it was okay for me to sneak off-which I did.One let me go 20 miles to a decent truckstop,told me he would be back later to check and I asked him for a wake up call.Offered to buy his dinner when he woke me up but he wouldn`t take a free meal.Have met alot of a-holes but have met even more good folks.
     
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  8. dieselbear

    dieselbear Road Train Member

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    This particular driver had some medical issues, was not able to operate the truck safely and log book issues. That being said the driver was unable to obtain a FMSCA waiver and could not complete a skills evaluation. So yes it was a danger to others on the road. I went back and forth, reading the regulations and the OOS criteria. My supervisor and two other co workers looked at it from every angle and with the problem this driver had we couldn't let him drive for safety reasons.

    What I tell driver's all the time when I place them or the vehicle out of service, is that the penalties have changed. 383.51 now has much harsher penalties that actually get your CDL disqualified. But for a few in goes in one ear and out the other. In my State, it is now an arrestable offense that carries significant amount of jail time and a he_ll of a fine.
     
  9. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    You carrier must not have much of a safety department . You're supposed to notify your carrier of an OOS within 24 hours . Many safety departments would check the time against your logs and terminate you if you violated the OOS . "Adjusted" your logs ? They'd catch that too , especially today with Qualcomm and GPS phones .
     
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  10. Zaroc

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    I was put out of service one time for logs, my bad and I stayed put for my 2 hours. I was trying to get home to my wife for mothers day.

    I have not had a truck shut down, for something I did not know about. I did work for a bad company for about a year that the only way to get anything fixed was to get shut down at the scale. I got to know the guys well, I would walk in and they would ask me what needed fixing. They would look at it, shut me down and I would call the service guy. He was on account, but nobody was at home : /

    So remember some of the guys out there are counting on scales to help us do the right thing.
     
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  11. dieselbear

    dieselbear Road Train Member

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    Zaroc,

    I have a trusty few that stop by whenever. I even have them that call me and tell me where they are waiting for me at.
     
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