Over analyzing my choices. Pay for CDL or indenture myself?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by BeanDip, Jan 6, 2015.

  1. Chaps

    Chaps Light Load Member

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    Reading these forums are a great tool, but in the end do whats best for you and you will be happiest with. Best of luck
     
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  3. Dinomite

    Dinomite Road Train Member

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    Here is the deal now listen up slim. You go to company sponsored school you get some 6 mo to a year guy to train you when he doesn't know much. Most of these trainers are paying for an over priced truck and need your logbook to keep from being in the red. Let's say you survive training. Now your first delivery is a blind side back off some busy street. You hit something not much damage. That's 1 strike. Few months later you take out some power lines going down a street. That you shouldn't be on. Strike 2. A few months later you are coming through a town and didn't see the speed limit change sign. And lookie hear the smokey grinning from ear to ear. Gives you citation. Company policy says no more then 3 violations in a 3year period. You are out of a job. Nobody wants to hire you because your record. Now you owe the company for the school and your cdl is useless.

    Im not saying the private schools will do any better of training. But they hire people with experience for the most part. And say you do go with prime afterwards. When the rookieish trainer is telling you something you know is wrong and you don't do it. Therefore protecting your cdl. Other then having 2 inexperienced guys training you and passing along the bad info their trainers told them just 6 months ago.

    Your clean cdl determines how long you can stay in this industry and or with a company. Not just your high level of being able to put up with bull thunder.
     
  4. BeanDip

    BeanDip Medium Load Member

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    I get that you think a private school is more likely to be a better quality school, but I gotta say that no amount of schooling is going to stop an idiot from being an idiot. A missed speed limit sign, failure to get out and look, unaware of your truck's height? No amount of training can prevent accidents due to driver inattentiveness. Now, I realize mistakes happen, and I'll make a few, but I intend on taking every measure to get, and keep a clean CDL.

    My education is MY responsibility. If I am unhappy with my training, I'll make my concerns known. The quality of ANY education is directly related to the quality of the student.

    I'm not extremely worried about my trainers ability. If I think it is lacking, I'll voice my concerns and move on. After all, this is my life (and others) that I'm taking into my hands. I think I'll risk coming off as a whiner or squeaky wheel before I risk someone else's life.
     
  5. Dinomite

    Dinomite Road Train Member

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    So you made up your mind. Why you asking for advice. Lord have mercy on the cat who trains you.
     
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  6. BeanDip

    BeanDip Medium Load Member

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    I didn't mean to insult you by simply disagreeing with you. Perhaps my hackles were raised with your "Listen here slim, Imma, tell you what is what, you gonna do this" attitude, then proceed to give me some learnin' by throwing out the "paid schooling is better quality that company schooling" crap. The best part was when you said "I'm not saying the private schools will do any better of training." and then go on to say exactly what you weren't saying.


    I've said several times in this thread that I am certainly leaning towards a company sponsored CDL program, and that I wanted to hear thoughts about 3rd party schooling leading to better initial job offers.

    I don't think that either way of schooling makes that much of a difference. I've asked around, read up, researched, and done much pondering on that specific subject. My completely unscientific, from the hip, gut feeling is that either someone is going to become a good driver, or someone is going to become a steering wheel holder just white knuckling it down the highway, and backing into every other truck in the parking lot.

    The reason I come to this conclusion is that a few long time drivers on here NEVER went to any sort of school. They learned by doing, and asking questions to the more experienced folks around them. They seem to be doing OK, at least by their account. But I'm sure there are many more of those types that after a couple days, whoever was in charge decided "nope, that kid ain't driving my truck no more".

    Then there are the multitude of posts, here and elsewhere, warning about how some companies won't hire from some schools, or only schools that they approve of. And then the posts about how someone hated school FOO , because they were never taught BAR, and on and on. I'm sure those schools put out some good drivers, and some crappy ones, too.

    Or how about all the perfectly good drivers that drive for several years at Prime, Werner, Swift, or wherever else? And all the great O/O that got their start at said companies? Do those companies spit out some bad drivers? No doubt about it. Do they crank out some good drivers that have long, safe fulfilling careers? I think that it's safe to say yes, they do.

    So to recap, I'm sorry you took my response as a personal affront. My response was as thought out as I could make it.

    In the future, maybe you're "this is how it's gonna go" and "I know whats best" attitude could be toned down. This would serve two really good purposes:
    1. It wouldn't set the person you're speaking to on the defensive.
    2. It might help you be open to an opposing view with out taking offense.

    Oh, fo show
     
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  7. Dinomite

    Dinomite Road Train Member

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    Oh bro please I don't take this stuff serious. Like the other guy said we see your kind come and go. Hope it all works out for you in the long run. If I had the cash and caught on fast. I'm sure that stash would come to good use in the future. Enjoy your day.
     
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  8. Steelcity

    Steelcity Bobtail Member

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    Honestly, I would pay for it out of pocket or take out a small loan if you can dig a nice interest rate. In the event that you absolutely hate it or venture to a different company you can do so at will.
     
  9. RetiredUSN

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    Let the carrier pay for it. It is a win-win for you. Give them a year and move on if you don't like they way they run things. About 75% of your learning curve begins after you go solo, not before. Obtaining your CDL and listening to a trainer for 3-8 weeks is the easy part. It is what you learn out on the road and how you apply it that will be most important.
     
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  10. Ridgeline

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    No - you will not.

    The problem is that you newbies need to pay for it one way or another and it all depends on them and their abilities - not everyone can drive a truck nor should everyone drive a truck. There are questions like what company you are willing to work for that don't matter, it mattes the amount of patients people have to put up with their crap to get the experience to get to another job.

    No matter what, you can't know what you want to do until you get your CDL and get some road time under your belt.

    Stop listening to those who are crying about how these companies screw everyone, learn how the company works that you will work for, learn how to communicate to them and learn how to talk to people who are over the heads of the dispatchers to insulate yourself form BS.
     
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