Over weight permits

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  1. Tug Toy

    Tug Toy Road Train Member

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    So, I have a question?

    Let’s just say Illinois is the state or maybe WI? If my truck weighs 30k lbs can I permit a 56k lbs piece?

    If so, do I still have to match axle weights. 12/ 34/ 20 / 20?

    Or can I permit say 40k on the tractor tandems?

    How do you handle toll roads if your routed on them?

    My understanding is I can permit up to 86k lbs but can’t be over on axles. If I go over 86k then I need more tires/ axles? What is correct?

    I have hauled with a overweight permit a couple of times but was for only like 2k lbs over. I still scaled each axle within limits.

    I’m having this discussion with my carrier but not sure we agree on the correct answer? I’m not always comfortable with what the permit office says either?
     
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  3. Old Man

    Old Man Road Train Member

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    Should be able to go 12-40-40 just about everywhere. Some states require you to have a max weight tag before they issue overweight permit.
     
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  4. Tug Toy

    Tug Toy Road Train Member

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    What’s a max weight tag? Never heard that term before?
     
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  5. johndeere4020

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    Look at your IRP cab card, some states require the weight listed to be higher. That’s my understanding anyway.
     
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  6. nikmirbre

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    For instance I don't know the exact weights but, Oklahoma your truck must be registered for 90k in that state in order to get a permit for that amount...
     
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  7. IH Truck Guy

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    Wi and Il,you can easily permit 92 on 5 axles.
    They will allow up to 43 on the drives..
    Tollway permit is 35 bucks up to 88,000 to 96,000 it's 150 bucks.
    Over that it's a arm and a leg.
    If memory serves me correctly .
     
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  8. Oxbow

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    As long as it is non-divisible you should be able to.
     
  9. ChaoSS

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    One good thing about permits is that you either get it or you don't, and weight permits should have the allowable weights on the permit or on an attachment. If the state will issue you a permit for a certain amount then there is no argument about it anymore.

    Most states have a permit manual that will explain max weights per axle under a permit, as well as axle spacings and such as you get heavier.
     
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  10. Tug Toy

    Tug Toy Road Train Member

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    I moved it forward on the deck one to many times. We moved it 3 times should have only moved twice. I wanted to be 40k on the trailer. It’s supost to be 72lbs on the gauge. I’m right at 72 but came up short. First weight I had the steer at 13.6 so I backed it off to this. Full of fuel. My empty should be 30.2k lbs? 063B7109-6BE2-4286-A46C-5EE75086F9FB.jpeg
    4B54C152-490C-425A-A609-9A0B5B9E7697.jpeg Permits are ordered.

    Thanks everyone for the help.

    The driving and the truck don’t scare me it’s all the other mumbo jumbo about each state that makes me nervous.
     
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  11. ChaoSS

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    Just be sure to read and understand all permits and their attachments, as well as any code sections that they reference.

    There's no reason to be nervous about it all unless you choose not to do all the home work you should be doing on these loads.
     
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