I am drive a company truck and the company paid for this. It does not change the fact that wrong is wrong and if it happened to me, it can definitely happen to anyone else... company driver or owner operator.
I was forced off the side of the road on British Columbia Highway 5A about 15 minutes south of the City of Kamloops. My right side tires were all off the road and I could not crawl back over the edge of the asphalt so I needed a tow. I was located about 400 - 500 meters from a very rural farm house that had a few lights on and there was someone home luckily enough. There have been several accidents in that area so a local tow company called Brenda Lee's Heavy Towing Ltd. of Kamloops, BC had left some flyers and business cards with the resident. I called them and the guy who answered my call told me it would be 30 minutes to get there... 15 to get ready and 15 travel.... that was about 5 minutes before 6pm....
At 7:15 (1 hour and 15 minutes or so after the initial call) I called to ask where they were but got no answer... I was concerned that since the roads were in such bad shape that they might have had a mishap or the road had been closed. They finally showed up on scene at 7:30 pm (1 hour and 30 minutes after the initial call) with a driver and one other person. The tow unit went way past and put out signs on one side of the scene then 25 - 30 minutes later came back having reversed the whole way, stopped briefly then went out for another 30 minutes the other way to put out more signs. As they were putting out the other set of signs (2 hours and 30 minutes after the initial call) their traffic control person showed up in a pickup. Would have saved a lot of time if that person had showed up on time to put out the signs.
Recovery operations started and a hook was run to my front right tow hook and to the king plate of my trailer. I was towed up flat and my unit stalled... turns out all the fuel had run out of my primary tank into the secondary tank and the computer said there was no fuel. Computer shut it down. The tow unit pumped about 20 or so liters of fuel into my left tank then primed the filter and it started. Recovery continued an I was on the road, and under way after exchanging all the info. (3 hours and five minutes after the initial call)
Boss told me yesterday he got the bill..... $1,500 --- I said holy crap!
They are billing us about $700 for the tow... that's for 3 hours of tow truck use...
- Why are we paying for the 1 hour extra they used to just get there? It is litterally less than 15 minutes to the City of Kamloops where they are based... I know... I drove to the complete opposite side of the city in 25 minutes after the recovery from the scene of the incident.
- They were on scene for 1 hour doing the actual tow... if the flagging person had been on time then the tow unit would not have had to waste so much time putting out signs.
... but where I have the real problem is that they are billing us for 4 hours of flagging service with 3 people flagging.
- There was 1 operator, 1 assistant who did flagging and one person who showed up 2 hours after the call.
- The whole call didn't last 4 hours and there were not 3 flaggers. There were 2 if you count the assistant on the tow unit.
- The driver is supposed to be paid for with the truck.
They also charged us for 100 liters of fuel when they only gave us about 20 liters.
All-in-all... the I believe that the people at Brenda Lee's Heavy Towing Ltd of Kamloops, BC are, in my opinion, not a good deal for any trucker... call their competition if you are ever in need.
If you know anyone who travels this part of the country, you might want to pass this along to them as a heads up.
overcharged for tow job
Discussion in 'Canadian Truckers Forum' started by Grocery Getter, Jan 16, 2013.
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Remember People... these are the facts as I experienced them and my opinions alone. You make up your own minds about hiring anyone. They may have an impeccable record of service and have many happy customers. I am not the one paying the bills, my boss is.
I also want everyone to know why my wheels were off the road. An oncoming car with 3 occupants crossed the center line of the highway and came 3/4 of the way into my lane, there was a pull-out at that area and I had hoped to be able to dodge the car and return to the roadway. Had I hit the car it would have ended in certain death for the the car's occupants so I took the chance to avoid the car using the pull-out and avoided the car but my right tires caught deep snow and I was sucked off the road along the edge of the asphalt. It was technically my fault for not having hit the car like so many people tell me I should have.
My problem is when billed for truck time that I never used and flagger time that also wasn't used. If an employer wants to pay his employees for an extended period of time over and above the time of the job that should be his expense, not the expense of the person that hired him to do the job. If one part of the recovery team is late then they should also bear the costs incurred as a result. What about that extra hour I spent at the side of the road while waiting for a truck that was promised to arrive in 30 minutes but got there 90 minutes later? My boss was still paying me for that time and while that is nice for the tax-man, I do care about my boss' bottom line and how that can affect my paycheck in the future.
All this experience has done is reinforce the notion that "If it has a hook, it's a crook" that I have heard so many times. -
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So, they to show up with a $400,000 tow truck and do it for nothing?
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Should have asked prices before sending them out, gotta pay for those tow trucks somehow, they do sit alot you know
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Are you guys crazy????? Who in the right mind would agree with the tow truck company on this... The company needs to pay for the tow trucks to do HONEST work, not charge the company that hired them for work that wasn't performed... It's the tow trucks company responsibility to pay for the trucks doing work the honest way, ripping people off isn't the way to pay for the trucks... If they can't pay for the trucks while charging for the work they ACTUALLY performed, then they shouldn't be in business...
Would you like it if you went to the gas station pumped 800litres but they charged you for 1300litres?? Would you like it if you hired escorts for a wide load, you were promised 2 cars got 1 car but charged for 3???
What about the trucking company that has to pay for there trucks, trailers, fuel etc..... but they are having a hard time cause TOW TRUCK companies over charged them for work not performed... It's like having a trucking company charge your company for 2000miles but you only ran 1000miles... Worked charged for work not performed.. SCAMMERS!!! -
Yup, the the Nicola Lake route-5A is miserable isn't it? I gather you were using it rather than going over the Kamloops-Merritt part of the Coq and avoiding Surrey Lake hill? That can be a ##### in the winter. On the other hand, with the Nicola Lake route through Quilchena being so narrow and twisty-there is a good chance of being forced off the road by folks swinging out of their own lane while navigating a curve. Heavy tow companies often make a great portion of their year's earnings during the winter, and charge big to help pay for their equipment, given how slow things can be for them in the late spring and summer months. $1500 bucks is typical for either Davie or Quiring to tow a truck off of the Coq from Zopkios to Hope. I ought to know, I do hubby's accounts.
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In the USA, Oak Ridge, TN, one of our drivers pulled onto the paved shoulder during an ice storm, tried to pull back on the roadway approximately 5 minutes later, but the warm tires melted the ice about 1/4 inch deep. Truck wouldn't move at all. Called tow company, they were too busy so tow company called one of their buddies. The guy there within 30 minutes, hooked a chain, pulled the truck about 20 ft and then refused to unhook unless he was paid $5000.00 in cash. The trucking company operations manager talked him down to $2500.00 with a Comcheck...corrupt tow truck drivers/companies are the norm in USA. For example, a shopping center is bankrupt and closed. They put up "NO Truck Parking" signs. Tow truck companies remove the signs & wait for a trucker to park. When the trucker leaves to go to a resturaunt, etc. they put the sign back up & hook to the truck & wait for the driver to return. They say the drivers are stupid for not seeing the no parking sign. The charge sometimes is $2500.00 to unhook. Strangely, the police always side with the towing company. Money talks.
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Anybody here ever been on the Airline Road ( Rte 9 ) in Maine ? Not the 'new' Airline, the OLD one. 20 + years ago. It was a real goat-track. Narrow and practially no shoulder. At 2am one night I blew an air line (mind the pun) and had to take the shoulder as far as I could to get 1/4 the way off the road. Fixed the problem after an hour BUT it was spring thaw and the entire right side (loaded) sank into the mud hub depth. 2 hours later, and 2 40 ton hooks, and 2 Troopers to stop traffic, the total bill was $410 !!!!
4 years ago, I'm on a rural highway, on a Saturday night, when the fuel line ruptured under the cab at 1130 pm and started a fire. Called 911, put out the fire with a bottle of 7-Up, let the fire dept come anyway (cause I was out of 7-Up), called for a tow and some mech on call from our shop. I needed help because I was loaded (cars that is !!) and the mechs had to bring out a spare truck. In car haul, when a loaded rig goes bad, you sometimes need to put the trucks nose to tail and unload onto the next truck over the top decks. It ain't fun, but can be done. Longer story short, the big hook (it was a rotator) was on the job for 6 hours (travel time and hook and go). Total cost $909.00 --- I was dumbfounded !!! I even asked the guy if that was correct ! He said yep. I believe in NY or NJ for example, a rotator can be like $400 AN HOUR !!
I concur that these $400 K units need to be paid for, but I also think that some outfits will charge what they want when they are the only game in town.
JMO
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to the OP: You have a decent boss.
You might take a few minutes and forward your post to the city council and respectfully ask if they thought that was a fair business practice for the area or would they mind terribly much if you publicize the incident as a fair warning to other travelers. Perhaps they might be able to encourage the towing firm to refund your boss an appropriate amount. A lot of abuse continues because people do not say anything or involve the right people. You might not get an immediate response, but a proper approach can go a long way to setting things right. Best of luck
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