Overcoming work history gaps / getting foot in the door in 2018

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Rockman86, Nov 20, 2018.

  1. BUMBACLADWAR

    BUMBACLADWAR Road Train Member

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    This sounds kinda strange...Ive always been bent towards believing that "truck companies" only "really cared" about your last 10 years of "dot driver sensitive positions " or whatever they call it.Want to see if your "hiding" some failed drug test or tickets/ wrecks etc.Its a DOT thing.Since you havent drove a CMV it seems its a "non issue". Well,accordinding to what theyre saying it is? You can go to Social Security Administration Building and get a printout( it may appear to be a small phonebook) but,anyway itll show every job (except Cash jobs) that you ever filled out w4's for...then you just fill in dates with "drew unemployment" or "worked on family farm","fixing up cars",or "chugging beer",or what have you.I m just saying Ive NEVER been analyzed that much.Usually " Megas (Swift) etc. Seem to hire as long as No DUi,felonies,thievery,dangerous driving etc. Good luck to you
     
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  3. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    Here's one most people haven't heard of; might have to stay in a motel during the first phase.
    www.goeastwestinc.com - Swannanoa, NC
    Here at East-West Inc, we realize how difficult and expensive it can be to obtain your CDL. Even after obtaining your CDL, trying to find a company who will hire you with no experience, proves to be even more difficult. That is why we developed our own training program.
    Not only do we take the time to give you all the skills necessary for driving a truck, but we also compensate during the entire training process. There are no tuition costs involved. We simply ask that you sign on with our company for a year, since you are being compensated during the entire training process.
    Our training program consists of two different phases. The first phase is the skill portion, which allows you to hone your shifting/backing skills before heading out on trips. You are home every night during this first phase. Our second phase has you paired with another driver (who is the lead driver), while hauling loads to various customers. During this phase, you will be asked to be on the road for 4-6 days at a time. The lead driver’s experience and advice is invaluable to our training program. Our training program has been proven to produce safe drivers, time and time again.
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  4. Rockman86

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    Hey, thanks guys I do appreciate all the replies and I'll look into all these companies you've posted China.

    I've never failed a drug test, been in trouble with the law, or anything of that nature. All my prior jobs aside from one would give me good references. The one job that wouldn't was the bakery. It was a family owned business and I got a long well with everyone but the owner. He was a bit of an ### and thought I was attempting to hit on his wife (my manager) and I saw it wasn't going to work out so I left. I don't know if it went down as terminated or quitting. Only job I ever walked away from.

    I have been doing mostly farm work + working from home on the computer most of my adult life aside from living in Florida for a year where I worked with a landscaping company. I tore something bad in my knee at that job and ended up being out of work for a year recovering from it. That was back in 2013 or so.

    I want to go OTR for various reasons. Trucking seems like a good path to a lifelong career. My other option is taking the money I have saved up and a loan out for going back to college but I don't want to go into student debt again or be stuck looking for an entry level position somewhere when I'm getting close to 40.

    I don't have kids, girlfriend/wife, or any obligations that would cause me to be at home. I was pretty much hoping to be able to live out of the truck most of the year, do home time by visiting/sleeping at my Grandmother's place and save up my money. I'd like to save up enough to get into investing and eventually want to open my own business. I have some ideas but I'll save them for now because this is already a wall-of-text.

    Again: Thanks guys. Living in this town feels a bit like a prison. It seems to suck people in and make them depressed and they never move on. Trucking feels like one of my only ways out of it. Plus, I've always wanted some type of driving job. If my family had been rich when I was growing up I would have attempted to break into NASCAR. As long as I'm shifting gears I'll be happy.

    My Grandmother is back in the hospital again tonight so it looks like I'm going to be away for a couple of days but I'll come back to see if any drivers have replied with any more advice. There is so much information to take in. I just want to get my foot in the door somewhere at a school/company and start learning. I've always learned best by doing and I'm itching to get back to work. I'm a hard worker and I get bored if I'm not doing something.

    One last thing: I know it isn't a proper truck but is there anything I could be practicing with my tractor? I have a lot of trailers. Any backing maneuvers I could practice to help myself once I get to school? I have plenty of land to set-up an obstacle course on.
     
  5. Omega1

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    I couldn't agree more. I was self employed for about a year before driving for a living. My new company had a very hard time with me proving what I did for that year....I gave them my EIN number and multiple other docs....yes we got through it, but it was very difficult for some reason for them.
     
  6. VIDEODROME

    VIDEODROME Road Train Member

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    I had issues from trying college.

    I also relate to to OP in that I wanted to be a programmer. Ithink had prior trucking experience and just managed to get into a refresher. That allowed me to claw my way out of an awful small town job market.

    I recently relocated and got another job lined up down south, but still have my work history and employment gaps picked over.
     
  7. Just passing by

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    Op, check out the oilfield threads in here. Might give you yet another option. I started with Halliburton in Hobbs, NM. Got paid while attending school and started pulling tankers right out the gate.
     
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  8. Aamcotrans

    Aamcotrans Road Train Member

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    Just have a friend that owns a business say you worked there the last 11 years.
    As long as it’s a real business, you’ll be good to go
     
  9. Moose1958

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    I hope you know I am not picking on you or your comment just to be mean or with malicious intent. This was debated in these forums a month or so ago. If someone gives you a work reference in 99% or more of those cases that report goes into a drivers DQF and becomes done and done. It does not matter if it is your big brother bubba sitting in a prison cell somewhere in Nebraska that wrote it. 391.23 is clear on these investigations, I know that in that example I was deploying a bit of hyperbole to show a point. As I said in an earlier post I am in the process of trying to help a guy. Looks like he has a job but it will require him to move to Memphis. In that earlier thread I was talking about some were attempting to state that if you did not pay taxes and was working under the table it did not count. My point was and still is you were working. 392.23 does not say your work has to be legal in regard to the IRS. It just says you MUST have a history and a carrier is required to ask for this information then make an honest attempt to verify it before they hire a driver.

    In your case I believe you were talking about an actual fake job just to account for time. I agree don't do that. Your better off just being honest.
     
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  10. Chinatown

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    I bought a fake job history one time. Won't go into details as to why, but it worked. Might not get away with it these days.
     
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  11. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    @Chinatown the thing is 391.23 is worded in such a way they almost require a carrier to hire an investigator to stay in compliance. Most carriers are not going to do this. This is what the average carrier does. They will pull DAC. Then work forward from that. If they can't get a reply from a past reported employer they just hold the application in suspense. Some HR and safety types are using Facebook and Twitter in these investigations. I'm not in a position to force my morality on anybody. I will just say this. You tell untruths during this process all I know is YOU don't want some personal injury Attorney with a hand full of discovery requests and/or subpoenas coming after you. The FMCSA can take action after the fact too.

    See this is the primary point. The FMCSA don't give a dang how many burgers you flipped when you was 16. They don't care about that job you had taking out trash. They only care about those DOT jobs you had. This is because they don't want a dangerous driver that was fired just moving on to another job. This was one reason the CDL law came about. Drivers were holding a drivers license from more then one state. Because of data holding company's like Hireright it is very difficult to do this today. So getting by with a fake history is in almost all cases going to be determined by that history. While you still can use fraud to bypass 391.23 today in time where DOT related history comes into play it is going to get harder and harder.
     
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