Overhang on a 48' trailer Question

the OP is loading two pieces end to end
(27X2 = 54 ft) see post #8

 

Only thing I could find was this and the only thing dealing with overhang was specific to car haulers, 3 feet to the front and 4ft to the rear.

 

I have a similar question- trying to ship a 45HC on a tilt-back 40 deck and wondering how much trouble I will have getting permission for it. 4' overhang off the back, and 1' off the front? Is there a front? Modified container, not empty. Alberta, Montana, Idaho, Washington is the route. joel@cargotecture.com if anyone has any wonder what I would be shipping.... houses in containers.

 

I am still trying to ship a 45HC on a tilt-back 40 deck and wondering how much trouble I will have getting permission for it. 4' overhang off the back, and 1' off the front? Is there a front? Maybe someone has an answer for this...

 

That makes you a oversize load in my book. IF you exceed the deck width, length and legal height of 13.6 in any direction you are a oversized in at least one direction. Over wide, over long over high or all three.

Oversize haulers will have to help you on this one. it is not something I get into very much and when I do I will overlook something really important. The main reason is I am too old and too much hee haw set in my wais, if you got a proper load to do it right, then one suggestion would be to call your home state commercial Vehicle Enforcment Board.

 

So, the short answer is... you can't. See (c)(1) below.

Why a tilt-deck trailer?

What is the deck height?

Who is hauling it, you/your company?

§393.126 What are the rules for securing intermodal containers?
(a) Applicability. The rules in this section apply to the transportation of intermodal containers. Cargo contained within an intermodal container must be secured in accordance with the provisions of §§393.100 through 393.114 or, if applicable, the commodity specific rules of this part.

(b) Securement of intermodal containers transported on container chassis vehicle(s). (1) All lower corners of the intermodal container must be secured to the container chassis with securement devices or integral locking devices that cannot unintentionally become unfastened while the vehicle is in transit.

(2) The securement devices must restrain the container from moving more than 1.27 cm (1/2 in) forward, more than 1.27 cm (1/2 in) aft, more than 1.27 cm (1/2 in) to the right, more than 1.27 cm (1/2 in) to the left, or more than 2.54 cm (1 in) vertically.

(3) The front and rear of the container must be secured independently.

(c) Securement of loaded intermodal containers transported on vehicles other than container chassis vehicle(s). (1) All lower corners of the intermodal container must rest upon the vehicle, or the corners must be supported by a structure capable of bearing the weight of the container and that support structure must be independently secured to the motor vehicle.

(2) Each container must be secured to the vehicle by:

(i) Chains, wire ropes or integral devices which are fixed to all lower corners; or

(ii) Crossed chains which are fixed to all upper corners; and,

(3) The front and rear of the container must be secured independently. Each chain, wire rope, or integral locking device must be attached to the container in a manner that prevents it from being unintentionally unfastened while the vehicle is in transit.

(d) Securement of empty intermodal containers transported on vehicles other than container chassis vehicle(s). Empty intermodal containers transported on vehicles other than container chassis vehicles do not have to have all lower corners of the intermodal container resting upon the vehicle, or have all lower corners supported by a structure capable of bearing the weight of the empty container, provided:

(1) The empty intermodal container is balanced and positioned on the vehicle in a manner such that the container is stable before the addition of tiedowns or other securement equipment; and,

(2) The amount of overhang for the empty container on the trailer does not exceed five feet on either the front or rear of the trailer;

(3) The empty intermodal container must not interfere with the vehicle's maneuverability; and,

(4) The empty intermodal container is secured to prevent lateral, longitudinal, or vertical shifting.

[67 FR 61225, Sept. 27, 2002, as amended at 71 FR 35834, June 22, 2006]

- eCFR — Code of Federal Regulations​

 

Why do you even bother giving advice when you admit yourself you don't know what the **** your talking about?
All your doing is confusing the guy who asked the question in the first place!

 

In his defense he never knows what he’s talking about.

 

Your best bet is to call Alberta and the states it will be traveling through. I have no idea on a 40ft trailer, I only ever pulled a 53ft. In Montana and Idaho you should be fine with the front and rear overhang you’ve mentioned, Alberta and Washington would be the ones I have questions about. I know in those two you can’t overhang the deck at all on a 53 without a permit so I would call and see what they say about overhang on a 40.

 

I think @not4hire is probably on the right track. I got pulled into the scales once with a 40’ container on my lowboy, it was setting on the rear with the front in the well which put it up in the air. They made me open the doors to confirm it was empty, I asked wtf and they said if it’s loaded the corners have to be supported.