overheight questions

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  1. dannythetrucker

    dannythetrucker Road Train Member

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    I pull a stepdeck with 3'6" lower deck. I've generally shyed away from anything overheight, I always figure that's what DD's and RGN's are for.

    I'm seeing more and more stuff posted for SD overheight though. For instance, where I'm at now there are a lot of steel tanks popping up, lightweight loads. Seems like they'd be pretty easy loads if I could get decent routing. Are permits pretty reasonable for overheight ? What is the max you would want to go for height, even with a permit ? Should I just let the DD's and RGN's handle that stuff ?

    p.s.- I don't mind pulling overwidth up to 12', but don't have any interest in anything requiring escorts.
     
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  3. Ivory

    Ivory Bobtail Member

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    Permits aren't cheap for any OD load. And chances are you are seeing these over-height loads through brokers on load-boards? It sounds to me like someone is attempting not to pay for the specialized equipment, ie double drop or RGN.
     
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  4. dannythetrucker

    dannythetrucker Road Train Member

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    the rates they are offering seem to be towards the low end for RGN, but darn good for stepdeck. I think they are just wanting them moved pretty bad. I'm just trying to get info. looks like South Dakota's permits for example are only $20. I just can't find out how high, can you go up to 15'6" ?? Or will that result in crazy routing ?

    edit - found some info. Iowa requires a pole car if you are over 14' 4", South Dakota just says depends on routing, North Dakota doesn't require an escort as long as it's less than 18'.

    Yah, they're definitely not paying enough to fool around with a pole car, that's for sure, even if you only needed it for Iowa.
     
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  5. wichris

    wichris Road Train Member

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    Got to have the exact height and then SD will route you. Where is it coming from?
     
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  6. rank

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    Danny,

    Could also be they need more than 30' of length in the well.

    If the tanks you're talking about are round then they're going to be over width right? All you need to do is permit the height and the width on the same permit so the "extra dimension" is "free" I guess you could say.

    As far as when you need a pole car, it varies from state to state. Generally the east is ~14 feet or so but the midwest is higher I believe. If you're in PA, NY, MA, CT, VT, etc the routing starts to get crazy pretty quick.....like 13'-10" or so.

    We moved some OD round tanks a while back. I made some custom coil bunks to keep them from rocking and rolling.

    I would go for it in a minute if I were you.
     
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  7. critters

    critters <b>Late For Dinner</b>

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    the other you need to consider is escorts and/or high pole pilot cars,they can get pricey also, I just pulled two high loads last week at 14"6 ,12"5 wide no escorts or high poles. some states charge per mile run .
     
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    .....and I forgot to mention there may be a route survey required also. Again it varies from state to state.
     
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  9. dannythetrucker

    dannythetrucker Road Train Member

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    I wound up putting a bid in on a tank that was 8' 9", but didn't get it. wound up with three partials legal starting at Sioux Falls, SD ending in San Diego, CA. I need to do more homework on overheight loads, haven't got any experience with them. FYI - seems like there are several tank manufacturers around here (Sioux City, IA, Storm Lake, IA, Lincoln, NE). seems to me they are having some trouble getting stuff moved. I can't really blame them, I'd have a hard time coughing up $4/mile for 5k loads as well. Sorta seems like a guy that would build or buy a trailer with two round tube frames to pull behind a pickup might be able to do pretty well on stuff like this and just deadhead back. But IDK if it's steady year round or anything. thanks for the tips.
     
  10. MJ1657

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    I ran 85 from 94 in ND to 90 in SD today. I seen 4 tanks headed north on step decks.
     
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    Are these the tanks they're using for crude oil collection in the fields?
     
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