Overtime pay ! Make it happen .

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by howlinhauler, Jul 2, 2016.

  1. tax

    tax Light Load Member

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    I dont why driver are against what is good for them. Every business in america has their own association fighting for them against laws that disadvantage to them. But when driver mention union for truckers, bunch of drivers bash them for being communist.
     
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  3. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    Soooooo, your answer is to have a Babycake set your wage for you and put you in a position where even screw-ups ("crybabies"?) continue to be paid a "living wage". Alrighty then.

    To be fair, my understanding is wages had little to do with why unions were originally formed. Had more to do with workplace safety and merciless hours in miserable conditions. And in that sense, and in those times, unions were a good thing and were needed
     
  4. stayinback

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    Been awaiting the day me n you can go round n round..

    YOU GOT THAT RIGHT!!

    There are so many americans that NEED a voice ..There not as strong To Play around with Free Markets

    Milions of Americans Cant Compete comfortably in a "Free Market" World...They Need to obtain a Good Wage in a more reachable fashion.

    Free Markets was created to only help the Smart and Wealthy... They Made it seem 'attainable" for everyone when you darn well know its not.
     
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  5. stayinback

    stayinback Road Train Member

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    Believe me..They are Still Needed. me and you combined have over 60 years in the jobplace......We've seen it all, And the Stuff people get away with in this country is sickening at best
     
  6. Garzaci

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    Union this union that. If you want a union go to an industry with one. Just drive up wages and out companies out of business. Sounds good to me.
     
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  7. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    Feel free, but keep it civil please.

    As for everyone else, the next time I see someone get called an idiot, the one who tossed it will get tossed from this thread. Capische?
     
  8. rachi

    rachi Road Train Member

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    Not really, but if you got kids and no job then yes, you can get welfare just like any other state.
     
  9. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    I for one intend to laugh in the face of anyone who the gall to insult me with an offer of $2.00 an hour.

    You accuse TripleSix of straw man arguments, but what exactly are you doing here?
     
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  10. Garzaci

    Garzaci Light Load Member

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    Said well better than me.
     
  11. sawmill

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    Makes no difference what you pay drivers, or how for that matter, incompetence and ungratefulness will rear its head if the opportunity presents. Too much pay or too little can both be problems. In my former position as a fleet manager I had many drivers, paid hourly, who made well over $100K a year with very good benefits and other perks. And yet they still found a way to be unhappy. Even when given more and more they found new things to complain about. I think it is in the nature of some people to piss and moan no matter how good they have it.

    My boss was insistent on paying all drivers the same wage regardless of which of our locations they worked out of. So in rural WY the guys were making better money than almost anyone in our town. But in the Permian basin where there were other jobs to be had we couldn't find drivers that could walk and chew gum at the same time for the money we were offering. I think now that I have left there they modified the policy and now pay a different wage based on location but it's still way off compared to other employers.

    It boils down to this...the pay a driver gets needs to be commensurate with the type of work he does, the skills he brings to the table and the region of the country in which he operates/lives. If you don't pay enough then you get the worst candidates who can't be trusted not to screw up, therefore limiting the capabilites of the services you are offering. Pay them too much and you breed an elitist attitude that poisons your operation and wastes your money. Experience pays. Still amazes me that some guys spend three months in a truck, had no aptitude for this job in the first place and still think they deserve the same money that a guy with 10 years is getting. Probably the results of a generation of gullible "every kid gets a trophy" kids getting lollipops and sunshine blown up their rears by recruiters. Anyone remember when it was common knowledge that you had to pay your dues to get in a good position.

    Admittedly I had no idea what the hell I was doing when I took that job. But going from driver to manager gave me perspective I lacked when I was the driver sitting around complaining that we should be getting paid more.
     
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