Owner Op. or Company driver...Hmmmmm

Wow, Mr Concrete Cowboy, I never said to not do it..But I will give my oppinion and Im going to lay it all out straight..Didnt you say you have a truck??? and was paid for??? Why is it not running?? Or is it?? If anyone cant make it with a truck PAID for, hows it going to be any easier with one with a 1500.00 a month note...Ive been around this all my life, I may not know everything , but I know enough to say theres not enough gain in it for the financial risk thats involved..If you want to do it by all means, knock yourself out... Its your money..And a paid for truck sitting in your yard doesnt make a whole lot either...

 

Where have I stated they shouldnt?? And yes they should make their own mind up about it..Its their money..But Im not sugar coating a thing about it..Its there and anyone with common sence, a calculator, pen and paper can see it.. To all that reads this, you crunch the #s...Theres enough Horror storys out there to make you really be ware.. Its then your dicision..Just dont go into this without real extencive thought..Id rather throw my money out the window as to buy a truck today..But thats of course your decission to make...And Ive never said NOT do it..Im just smart enough I guess not to..

 

I was an O/O for the last 5 yrs I was out there up until 2 yrs ago..And I know theres no way theyre makeing the money some of these Companys are paying... It about the MONEY!! Nothing else..Are you smart enogh to work a calculator?? Where do you see it benificial?? Back up your opinions with facts,,,Id like to know ,as well Im sure everyone else..Give us something positive.. Anyone who ventures into the financial risk that involves a truck, had better be makeing the jack! And I dont see 30% profit if your lucky a benifit over what the next guy does at .400 a mile or MORE! In a less tax bracket.. So grace us with the Positive facts so we can end this, and settle the fact that sometimes the truth may hurt..A company driver makes more than a lease driver today...Id be glad to hear your facts! only.. Not your oppinions..And if Im not popular on this sight, Oh well, I never intended it to be a popularity contest.. But like I sayed its the truth and sometimes it hurts..And oppinions dont sell me.. Facts do. And Ive stated many compared to your oppinions..

 

Yea alot of them are starving too..But theres always tomorrow I guess..Out of all the true Independents and lease O/Os. Which one do you think has the most Ops..?? My dad had 5 in the mid 70s to mid 80s..True Independents..Theres very few today I can assure you to lease drivers..The closest Ive seen to true Independents is the Landstar group, and still its all within Landstar...So are they True Independents,or are the Dependent on Landstar for anything??? I cant give an actual fact on the difference in the 2 but I would freely bet lease driver are the majority. And if your lucky to find a Co. to lease to that pays lets say1.10 per mile LD and MT.. You Op. cost will be higher than a Co. paying .85 for they might cover your plates..And the Co. with 1.10 will not.. Just an example.. My point here is Co. drivers are making up 50% of what lease drivers are makeing per mile..And lease drivers cant touch it.. People do your Homework, 1 year of exp. goes a long way today when it come to pay..I was told from a young age"If it doesnt work on paper, then it will not work at all" and no truer words have ever been said.. Its got yet to let me down.. I sold out to raise my girls and at that time fuel was hitting 1.70 a gallon..There was no real FSC established at the beginning of the fuel hike like now..And still, I would have sold out... BUt you do the #s crunching, and dont cheat yourself on it... The industry is going to give you life and sometimes it can hurt...Just be honest with yourself on the #s when you figure it out..Youll be glad you did...I really wish I could be more positive in this area, but Im a realist..And the MONEY is the bottom line, if its not there then why try..Who needs extra headaches in the world today?? But do figure it out for yourself...

 

What you do is this...Your driving a truck...Pretend its Yours! Monday at midnight to the following Monday at midnight.. Truck payment, say 300.00 week.. Find out your companys Fuel surcharge rate and apply it to your gross revenue per mile for O/Os, that way you can use the pump price on figureing fuel...You have 2 different mileages, Hub miles and your pay miles. Know what both are..Truck ins..approx. 8% give or take of the gross value of the truck..Say a 45,000 unit..70.00 a week.. Bob tail-9.00 a week. your service and break down acct..Truck acct.. avg. .100 per pay mile, not hub..Health ins. is now all on you.say 150.00.. And even there it could be higher. FHUT= 10.00, cell phone= you write it off you claim it..35.00. Unemployment and life ins.11.00..If a tire goes out, take it out of your gross, you break down,take it out of your gross...Theres no grace period even on your first week..If you cant cover it this week..Pray you run enough next to pay it and eat the next week.. After the weeks over youll have your first real training experience as an O/O lease driver. And it will give you a better Idea.. Your doing the work, someone else keeps up with what your doing on their truck.. Just pretend its yours and youll see what Im saying.. Apply it all to whatever these companys are trying to shove even on lease purchase agreements. Which I will tell you thats real risky..If you want to do this buy a truck and go to them..Theyll have enough control over you by that, but If you tell them to go to H&^L... Your truck goes with you..