Owner Operator leased onto a company that trains noobs, can you train also? How so?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by freightwipper, Oct 4, 2014.

  1. bubbanbrenda

    bubbanbrenda Road Train Member

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    Now I see what you don't understand. Whoever owns/leases the truck is who ultimately is going to pay the driver-trainee. There is NO free lunch. Who ever owned/leased the truck you were trained in is who paid you. The revenue generated by the truck you were in during your training, is where the money came from to pay you your training pay. Mr. Prime and Mr. Schneider will not pay their trainee out of their pocket AND pay your truck twice as much $ for hauling twice the freight. % or CPM. it doesn't matter, the bottom line is the trainee pay is going to come from the revenue generated by the truck he or she is in, and to be absolutely honest the owner of that truck is paying the trainee to tear up the transmission, and rub the fenders and everything else that happens to trainees, then when you get him or her all polished up and doing it right, Mr. Prime and Mr. Schneider are going to put them into their truck and have them run the freight you can't because your transmission is tore up, or your clutch is out, or your waiting for the paint to dry on your new fender. So again I ask, why?
     
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  2. freightwipper

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    I understand that, different lines of freight require different needs and schedules.
    If I owned my own truck outright I would have a hard time letting anybody else drive it, I'd probably be paranoid every moment lol.

    When I was a noob starting out I was getting $350 a week regardless if I drove 1 mile or 3000 miles (no kidding) my trainer went to sleep during long stretches on the highway.. I was told only to wake them up only if I were to get off the highway.
    So I wonder if my trainer actually owned that truck and I was driving while they were sleeping, they'd be making a lot of money.
    Regardless if an o/o has to pay the noob or not, even if they did it wouldn't be much.. from my outside perspective it appears to be an interesting idea to make a lot more money in the right situation.
    Dunno in actuality if it works out that way though.
     
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    Even if you are training a driver for a company to become a company driver?
    How would you pay them to the trainee if an employee of the company and not you?
    If you did pay them it wouldn't be much though, I got $350 a week in training.. say if I drove 2200 miles over 7 days, that's what $0.16 CPM? lol

    Trainees get paid a little nothing however so it might work out.
    Seems like a lot of stress to deal with but you both could drive 8 hours a day, 7 days a week non stop. That's appears to be a way to make a lot of money even if you paid the trainee garbage like companies do anyway.
    Again I guess it depends on the right situation.

    I don't know if this even exists, so few companies to lease onto pay % to O/Os and train noobs.. let allow you to pick you own freight. I think Schneider is the only one.
    I wouldn't trust leasing onto a company that also has company drivers but that's a subject for another day lol.
     
  4. Pedigreed Bulldog

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    "Cheap" labor that will lead to a $5000 transmission rebuild when they can't grasp the whole shifting thing.

    "Cheap" labor that'll cost you $2500 to have a new clutch put in after they smoke it spending an hour backing into that parking space.

    "Cheap" labor that will tear up bumpers, side steps, fuel tanks, and any other part of the truck they put into an object they didn't see.

    "Cheap" labor that will take that get-off ramp a little too hot & roll the truck because they don't know any better and you were "training" them from your bunk while watching their every move through your eyelids.

    "Cheap" labor isn't always "cheap".
     
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    Aren't you the same guy who couldn't grasp the whole leasing on the Landstar/Mercer thing? But you want to put a Noob stranger in your truck, the same truck you gotta pay maintenance on? Yup, this is all I needed to see here
     
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    And also thanks for the idea for suckering new drivers to earn yourself some "easy money". Your no better than some of these megas with an idea like that
     
  7. freightwipper

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    lol no that's not me, there's a lot to read and learn about soo many areas of trucking.
    This topic though, I knew nothing of nor could find no info about
     
  8. Jerry12

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    Owner Operator pay will be on a signed contract, taking on a student wont change the rate of pay on that contract. Next ques: get extra pay for training...no. The only money difference will be on the increased personal time for the O/O to get down the road from not driving & when the student becomes more proficient the extra mileage driven over the week. Extra mileage aside, when the pay is based on percent. The Carrier owns the store, greatest profit is to operate their own trucks on a specific contract. Since the O/O is getting extra mileage during training period will that O/O see those high paying lucrative contracts. (sigh) probably, the O/O will be refocused to cheaper paying contracts while running higher mileage weeks. Business is complex...and the answer is unknown until you reach a period in time, When your looking back...
     
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    LMAO! :biggrin_2559:


    Hey man, it's a business and works the way it does.

    It would be training for the training company and just profiting off of it.
    The noob driver has many choices of where to go, it's the not MEGAs that are bad it's the noob drivers that accept low pay that's the problem.
    But once they get a little experience they can jump ship.

    I had to accept low pay in the beginning myself because of a stupid late payment on a parking ticket that lead to a suspension.
    Werner and Schneider offered me .26CPM most everybody else denied me just because of that suspension.
    Needless to say I GTFO out real quick once i got some experience.
     
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    Yes those things are true.

    However if you train a noob for half the year and the noobs give you an extra 50k miles on top of what you normally could run, that's a chunk of extra money also.
    To run without a reset you really can only be on duty 8.5 hours per day non stop, however with a noob next to you then you can double that on duty time for the truck you are already making payments on anyway.

    Yes there is more stress, yes they will tear up your transmission.

    But is the extra money worth it? that is the question