Owner Operator leased onto a company that trains noobs, can you train also? How so?

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  1. bubbanbrenda

    bubbanbrenda Road Train Member

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    Sorry you type faster than me I was editing read it again please
     
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  3. skateboardman

    skateboardman Road Train Member

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    yes, and I answered your question perfectly well. you have always been paid by the mile, you have a mileage mentality. it cant be helped. its all you have ever known.

    it IS also the reason lease purchase deals continue to exist, the fact that you have to run a certain amount of miles to break even, then more on top of that to make a check.

    I gave you the secret of life, but you are too blind to see it. I will post it again in caps.

    RUN THE LEAST AMOUNT OF MILES FOR THE MOST REVENUE . switch to a revenue mentality vs mileage mentality.

    more loads do not necessarily mean more money

    your costs go up the more miles you run.

    what you don't understand and take offense at, is some of us are giving you barebones non-sugarcoated advice, you take it as insult, when it is simply a to the point advice.

    the best advice is always straightforward and to the point, again I give you another nugget secret of life.

    now lets see your reaction to that.

    I will tell you like I tell my kids when they ask why I am always telling them what not to do, its like this.::::::

    whatever you are simply thinking about screwing up, I have already screwed up successfully, not once, but twice even.
     
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  4. freightwipper

    freightwipper Road Train Member

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    Again you have read ZERO of what I wrote.... I will repeat my very first post:

    Nothing there about mileage or me having "mileage mentality"

    I will post again in caps....

    THIS ENTIRE TIME I'VE BEEN POSTING REFERRING TO PERCENTAGE PAY NOT MILEAGE PAY!!

    Even this quote:


    See I was bashing mileage pay myself! Just as you...
    Perhaps READ what the poster said before responding just making up stuff.

    If you're out of hours you can't pick up a hot load paying a lot which you'd get a % of.. but if you've got a noob in your truck he can legally drive to go and get it.
    That's why i refereed to % ... "having hours in the seat next to you" etc this whole time.

    I know mileage sucks, especially to be leased on and still getting mileage pay even more so. That was one of the very first things I learned in this industry.
    This thread is meant to see if the revenue you can earn on PERCENTAGE with a noob in the truck is worth the stress and extra maintenance costs of well.. a noob driving your truck.

    I guess the only way to truly know is by somebody with that experience, so far nobody has come foward.
    So maybe such a thing doesn't even exist....
     
  5. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    Who's going to trust a green newbie on a critical load? And how often would such a situation arise? I can't even recall it in my own operation. If I'm out of hours I'm burnt and don't even care what's posted. I can't imagine trying to sleep in my truck while some greenie that can't read a road map is supposed to just take over the truck and do everything right. You're either a team operation or not. Going out here working spot with some cheap labor in the passenger seat, just in case, strikes me as odd and unworkable. There's your answer. That's why no-one except for cut rate bottom feeders even do it.
     
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  6. freightwipper

    freightwipper Road Train Member

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    lol yes I see your point.
    Even if you could make a good amount more money it's probably not worth the stress.
    When I was in training, unless I was on city roads my trainer went to sleep.
    That's how these companies train drivers these days
     
  7. Jerry12

    Jerry12 Heavy Load Member

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    "...rollin coal...That's why no-one except for cut rate bottom feeders even do it..."; gotta learn good form somewhere...aint learned by talking
     
  8. freightwipper

    freightwipper Road Train Member

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    cheap drivers is worth the risk to those companies ...

    I too had to learn somewhere, my first trucking job I was earning the same as if I was working at Walmart as a greeter.
    Got outta there real quick
     
  9. skateboardman

    skateboardman Road Train Member

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    again, your reading comprehension is lacking. I know they pay percentage, but YOU!!! are thinking in a mileage mentality. its simple to figure out when you state the more you run the more you make.

    that thinking rates right up there with "" the fasteri drive, the more loads I haul, the more money I make.""""


    again I offer this, print out what I have posted here , kep it, refer back to it in 5 years and you will then think I am a genius.


    same thing as I did with my parents, as a teenager I thought they were the two stupidest people in the world, turns out as I got older they were amazingly smart.
     
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  10. skateboardman

    skateboardman Road Train Member

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    which is what everyone else here tried to tell you, mores miles do not equal more money .


    now let me give ya something else to think about, why not instead of drive it til the wheels fall off mentality, try a drive maybe 80,000 a year and gross 180,00 to 190,000 a year, or even as some on hear do 50,000 miles while doing 125 to 150,000 a year. you know avg less than 2,000 miles a week and over 2.00 a mile

    in stead of 150,000 miles a year at 1.50 avg ????????

    guess who makes more money???


    quit being so defensive , young grasshopper and you will learn.


    I have raised five kids they are 34 down to 17, I am used to arguing with hardheads,lol.
     
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  11. freightwipper

    freightwipper Road Train Member

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    I don't understand why you keep thinking I'm in mileage mentality.

    It's not about how fast you drive or how many loads you haul, it's about picking the loads that pay the most per what you do and driving at the speed at or near the speed where you get the best MPG because fuel costs are huge. I understand that...

    However we have HOS.. other rules etc as is why I was pondering maximizing all a truck can possibility do to earn.
    Not in terms of "mileage pay" but having the most available hours to work at any given time.

    If you run out of hours and have to do a reset, how exactly are you earning then?
    That's what I mean, maximizing working hours for the truck, that doesn't mean to grab up all the crappy paying loads and running hard.
     
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