now i read a lot of post about the many problems an owner operator has and a lot simply do not make it because of these problems and i have posted many tiems that i just don't have all those problems well it has dawned on me that maybe i need to tell you why maybe it will help some one along the way.
now im not going to tell you not to buy a truck i would never do that but i am gong to tell you why you have so many problems and what im going to tell you is facts not rumor , i started out as an owner operator but i did not stay an owner operatoer ans you will see why.
if your going to buy a truck here are just a few reasons you might fail and probably will.
listening to a trucking compamy you have to remember they will all lie to you and you will always be told that you will make more money then you will actually make thats your first problem and one you can't get around if all you have is a truck the problem lies with the trucking companys reqirments mosy wont lease a truci tat is more then 3 or 4 years old forceing the buyer to buy a new truck an lesing a new truck to a comany your not going t make enough money to pay for it they will tell you will but you wont.
next you got that high dollor tag you have to buy,then your insurance, then all your pemits now remember your payments on this new truck will be at least 1500 a month now you have to buy fuel and that aint cheap either,now with a tractor leased to a compay your only going to make about 3 or 4 hundred every two weeks , do the math it dosent match up your already losing money your overhead is just to high you just can't do it ,does this mean you can't by a truck? no it does not it simply means you cna't buy a new fancy truck it cost to much and there is no money in leasing you have to have a trailer to make money .
now i have said many times before i don't have all the problems that most seem to have not because im better but because i do it difrently i am an independent i have my own trailers and my own authority and my owm custermers and i do not lease to anyone period leasing is a fools game, why pay some one 300 a weekto pull there trailer when you can pull your own. and you can buy a used trailer cheap and that is all you need.
now its true buying your own trailer and authority cost a litte more but you will find it will make you so much more and it will be all yours when you get payed.
thats how i don't have all the problems that most have that and hard work and anyone can do it you just have to make your own mind up and just do it.
i hope this helps some of you all you can do it it's not that hard. the best of luckto all. southernprde![]()
Owner operator/ so many prolems
Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by southernpride, Aug 21, 2010.
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For those guys just starting out you have to remember it takes a while to build up your business, your aren't going to just waltz into your own contracts. it takes years to build up relationships in this business. Southerpride is quite right when he said leasing to a company isn't that great of an idea. the really good carriers like Landstar, Inway you have to be there a while before you get the great paying loads. everyone has to pay their dues at those places, the others just chew you up and spit you out. when first starting out or even if you've been at it for years try using a Dispatch service you will find better loads than you can on your own and they (brokers and shippers) will be those that pay on time.
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I guess it is all relative. Most can buy a good used truck and keep payments below $1000 a month. Leasing on to a carrier is not that bad if you get the right package. All truck insurance can be reasonable when bought thru a carrier (I pay roughly $117 a month for ALL my truck insurance). Plus many carriers have substantial discounts on fuel well below the cash price at the pump. 20-30 cents off is not uncommon. And with my carrier, the fuel gal keeps all the pricing and discounts for all the major truck stops online. I just go online and find the best pricing (with and without fuel tax) along my run and plan accordingly. Plus the savvy O/O can negotiate good pricing on a lot of things they use regularly. Like oil and filters. I can get a very good 40% synthetic blend oil, delivered to my house, for $9 a gallon. I have a supplier that I can purchase all my filters from for roughly 30% less than normal retail pricing. I do a large portion of maintenance myself with larger problems going to a local shop with rates considerably lower than dealer rates. Internet shopping for spare replacements such at alternators, starters, belts, etc can save a chunk of change over impulse buying. I have done a few modifications to the truck and my driving so that I consistently see mpg's well into the 7 category. I don't have to pay anything for use of company trailer.
If the load planning is done right, then keeping the truck productive is not an issue. I never sit, except for breaks, and get home each weekend and by the house once or twice a week. Not on a dedicated type run either, I just operate in the upper midwest with my house being situated almost in the middle of where I run. Since I usually do the shorter runs of 500-600 miles, I get a higher rate per mile for the haul than the trucks doing longer runs at the company. Sure, I have to load/unload almost daily (with a fair amount of drop and hook), but with the right customers that don't tie you up at docks for hours at a time, and preplanned loads, it is never much of an issue. When I get one load done, I go get another. Sit time is virtually non existent except for maybe a rare time of an hour or two at most.
Sure, I probably would get a higher revenue by doing my own thing, but in the end, the net might not be that much better when you factor in all the leg work an independent does compared to me having my "back office" do it for me. I operate the truck and manage my costs. They take care of all the other stuff I would have to take time to do and pay for, like getting the loads, managing compliance with the government, getting and paying for permits (no cost to me), getting paid on the shipment, etc. But my net is not bad. I own a 2006 Jeep Liberty Diesel, a 2005 New Holland ag tractor, 68 acres of farm land. All free and clear. I have a few months left on the truck and a mortgage on the house, but both are very managable costs. I don't spend money on the truck except for maintenance. If something doesn't save me money or make me money, it doesn't go on the truck.
I do not in any way feel inferior because I have chosen to lease on to a carrier. I just made sure that it was the right deal, with the right carrier, working with the right customers. I did not just call them and ask "how much per mile" basic questions. I dug deep and asked a lot of questions about their business model, customer base, etc. (the big carriers usually don't like to share too much information like that). It took several months before deciding to lease on. One has to go into things with eyes wide open. Glossy ads in a truck stop magazine do not impress me.Easy E, papa1953, Dryver and 1 other person Thank this. -
Buying a used truck with alot of miles is a death sentence also. Even with my own authority and trailer after 2 years im still breaking even. Breakdown after breakdown. Permits brokers taxes fuel. It isnt worth it unless you csn get shippers to deal with you and you can get a truck with great fuel mileage
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Malong more bur my truck is breaking down constanly
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My avg is 2.90 mile. Am i leaving money on table?
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At $2.90 a mile I would not know where to put all my money. I still have the sting from .90 cent a mile promises of riches untold. I will say if I could not use an old non Def truck, that I would be taking everything off the new style truck I was paying for. Or replacing the engine.
But than again I still hate elog.
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