Well first off thanks for taking a look... I have been driving now for 7 or 8 years i don't keep track... i work for a owner operator that has around 8 trucks leased out to acme in louisiana and he is also a broker for them. Well i want to go out on my own and when i ask him questions about it, he won't respond to me about anything... when asking questions for being a O/O...
Well the times has come and want to go on my own. I drive a pete 379xhd and am home every weekend....I run my but off threw the week usually sunday evening threw friday evening and home saturday morning or late friday evening... soooooooo I got some questions
should i buy a used truck or a new? if i buy a used one what should i get with in the still good mile ranges? I want to get one of those freightliners with the mercedes motor in them, because of the fuel mileage they get.... When buying a used truck is it worth buying the extended warranties they offer or not mess with them?
now keep in mind i run pretty much short runs from, texas to kansas and to the east. i have mostly just ran texas louisiana mississippi ala florida ga the carolinas some tenn... like i said they are all short runs... now having this pete and home on the weekends and doing the short runs, i did manage to get it out of him that short runs pay good and they can be money makers. not sure if this is true or not...but am guessing so since he has just got that pete not but 6 months ago and putting money in my pocket his pocket and the truck
what are some of the good companies to lease from pulling dry box, i have read alot on landstar, and thinking of calling them up. i like the fact that they are a straight out O/O company....if i were to do this go out on my own thats prob what i would lean on more till i learn more of being a O/O and getting in good with a broker....i also like the fact that you can pick your loads and run where ya want..
also if i did lease on with landstar is it worth using there trailer or just buying a cheap 10,000$ trailer from like knight trans. or one of those big companies...
i do have more questions and will post at another time i got to get going to unload in houston in the morning thanks for looking
Jugg
owner operators please respond
Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by jugg, Aug 5, 2007.
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Before you bite off the $100,000+ that a new truck will cost you make #### sure you are committed and have some good contacts lined up.
A 400,000 to 700,000 mile truck depending on how it was maintained should have a lot of life left in it.
If you can pay for a trailer it would be a good investment. It'll be paid for in one yr and the rest of the money other than maint will be money in your pocket.
Landstar is a good company. -
DO NOT buy a Mercedes engine.
We lease four of them where I drive, and all have had at least 2 turbos, injectors at least twice on one, and once on the others, head gaskets on all 4, electrical problems causing reduced power.
Also, idler pulleys go out regularly, water pumps are a concern. On the EGR engines, the exhaust has a major leak where the EGR pipe slip-joints together on top of the manifold. This causes a lot of exhaust to escape into the cab when stopped and idling, or when backing up with the heat or A/C on.
I drive a 2004 non-EGR engine, but have also driven many 2005-2007 EGR engine trucks when ours are are in for repair (a regular thing) or service, and these problem have happened to almost all of them.
We have had to wait 3 days for water pump belts. No one keeps parts in stock, and they are expensive.
The head gaskets usually go out before 200k. When mine went it was 8 weeks down because the leasing company had 5 other Mercedes down at the same time with bad head gaskets, and Detroit was 3 weeks behind in repairing all the ones coming to them from other companies.
To make a long story short, the fuel savings will soon evaporate into repair bills and down time.
The company we lease from has several hundred Mercedes powered Freightliners and Sterlings, they are trying to sell all of them, and some have never even been put into service.
My truck has about 375k miles, and has been one of the best of the bunch, but it has had 2 turbos, 1 head gasket, 3 oil fill tubes, 1 set of injectors, 2 idler pulleys, 1 fuel temp sensor, 2 sets of water return o-rings, a new complete bell housing, (the early engines came out with motor mount bolts too short, which stripped out, breaking the motor mount, which almost dropped the engine onto the highway). I'm sure there are things I left out.
The engine does run good, gets good fuel mileage, and pulls good at low rpm. I like driving it, as long as I don't have to pay to keep it up. -
Wow what an impressive Mercedes review. I knew they weren't that great, but didn't know they were that bad.
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JUGG
glad you got some experience before you jumped into o/o. a couple of things you might want to consider. first who will do the paperwork and there is plenty. also tax prep while a necessity is expensive. Don't forget you'll need to be prepared to tradw that truck off in three years and the trailer in five as you will have depreciated it out. Also don't assume tht the depreciation is the same each year (mistake I made second year).Talke to your accountent. this is just my experience and I am not an accoutant. are you good at the bussiness side of things . while driving is important when you become o/o everything shifts.
you may run your butt off now but when you want a weekend off you take it but when you're an o/o you'll have a lot more hanging over your head so look to run some weekends. I think the biggest misconception new o/o's have is the "now I call the shots" yeah you do but with that comes more responibility.
Get a bussiness plan and be sure to factor in PLENTY for fuel .On the high side you're looking at 60%. Also line up some good contracts. Remember brookers usually don't pay fuel surcharge unless you negotiate. They say it's figured in. You'll need to stay on top of everything so you can Know what your talking about. sad as it sounds assume everybody is out to screw you then figure out how you'll play your side of the game. There is money to be made but it's yur job to see to it YOU make it not brokers.
Be sure you have enough money put back. I'd say safely two months bills at home now on the truck side will your run on T-check or com data?
If you lease on to a company probably what they offer but do THEY charge you an extra fee? If on your own You need to know the least I have heard T-check requiring in escrow is 50k
you'll need your own escrow for repairs, ifta,fines (hopefully you won't get any but ALWAYS be prepared).
Know you didn't ask all this but i've seen so many drivers only look at what kind of truck and I'm my own boss part of it. If i haven't scared you off then good you may have what it takes to be an o/o . Welcome to the world of the o/o we're always glad to see another good driver step up. anyway we can help just holler.godd truckin!! -
thanks for the responds everyone... and wow never heard anything on the motors
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well as it looks i got a while yet before i go ahead and do this, prob next summer or spring.....
thanks to everyone that has replied again. i will not get the freightliner i am more leaning towards the t600 with a 435 cat motor nd 355 rears with a 13 speed..... from what i have been reading on other forums and this one seems like the t600 is getting the fuel mileage at a good speed.... never have done the flatbed before, sure wished i would have learned it cause i live right next to mississippi recyling steel plant (bayou steel). there is always a crap load of loads going out of there.... if any of you flatbedders get down this way i am sure you have pulled a load or 2 out of there......
some questions i got... what types of paper work do you have to do being a O/O.....
any of your thoughts on the t600 with that set up?
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Ask Broncrider what he gets with his T6. When I had it I was getting close to 7 consistently. I think he is doing around that or better. -
I love a cat but if you want god fuel milage you need a cummins or detroit.
I'l secnd everything he said about the mercedes. I'v had almost the exact same experience with the one we have -
My 3406E out pulled and out mileaged my friends Cummins with similar set up. You're going to have a hard time finding a cummins that does much better than 7. For that I'll stick with a CAT, because the CATs just flat out PULLLLLLLLLLLL.
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