I'm 100% independent O/O. I've been hauling reefer for about 11 years out of 12 years on the road. I run as low miles as possible for the most amount of money I can get. I average 6k miles monthly little more little less.
I see this trucking business as opportunity to make money. that is the reason , I'm 1 man 1 truck fleet.
In my opinion, as soon as you buy more trucks and hire people to work for you, the whole concept of opportunity dissipates. no more opportunities. Now you become a prey. now you become an employee who must work to survive. at the same time you begin to destroy rates therefore the industry gets destroyed.
so, in my opinion, we , the truckers for wanting to have more , we start lowering the rates, exploiting others and we are so fkn ignorants that we start blaming someone else for our own stupidity.
Owner Operators, who’s in and who’s out? (poll)
Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Midwest Trucker, Jul 21, 2025.
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That never makes sense. Something else is wrong.
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Why feel sorry for them? If they spent as much time working towards finding a path forward in business as they do crying on youtube they might be able to figure something out... Why are all those guys to good to go be a company driver..? sometimes u gotta know when the cards aint comin ur way and take ur money elsewhere... I have failed in this business probably as much as anybody but i find no point in crying about it because times got hard and took me out. oh well, #### happens, tomorrows a new day. Theres always a different way forward. Sometimes it takes thinking outside the box. But these youtube crybabys wont ever change anything. They will just turn on the camera and get people to feel sorry for them. Kinda like that guy that started a go fund me because his engine needed a rebuild, but said there was no company jobs available to work to put some honest money together. What a joke...i hope i never have an attitude like that , might as well just blow my brains out at that pointJed2009, PPLC, Midwest Trucker and 10 others Thank this.
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He's not a crybaby, did you watch it? He posts all the numbers, probably no one else does.
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You are right . He does better than me. some people make #### happen others sit around and say its not possible. If theres no money to be made then find something else to do and quit #####in. Otherwise you are hardly much more mature than a 5 year oldPPLC, Sons Hero, Big Road Skateboard and 1 other person Thank this.
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@Constant Learner
Everyone I know doing regional is doing either decently enough considering, or pretty good. Myself included. A mix of deck freight, equipment, specialty reefer etc. Common thing is, none of it is the easiest type of trucking where the barriers to enter are quite low. And, they are all service based.
Ive never been a general freight otr guy, I wouldn't be good at it. Living in a truck is a tremendous sacrifice to family and usually self, and it should pay much more.
Theres a lot of people stuck in the cheeseburger mentality. McDonald's is who they are because they sell billions of cheeseburgers like the megas do with freight. Gotta sell steaksMidwest Trucker, Sons Hero, Big Road Skateboard and 2 others Thank this. -
I’m assuming his numbers are for the entire year since he shows 54k miles. I started hauling fuel on May 6 as a company driver and I’m $6k less than he’s net for the entire year. And I’ve slept in the truck 3 nights since I started the fuel gig. No way I’d live in a truck running spot freight for less than company driver pay.
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Why don’t you just go away. You have nothing to add, you’re not even witty with your snark. All you do is come into a thread that is clearly out of your depth and tell folks who are far more successful in this industry than you, that it can’t be done.
You just want to pick fights. So how about you read the room here pal! If someone should go away it’s you! You are the one that’s not wanted.Last edited by a moderator: Aug 10, 2025
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35k net by August is not worth owning equipment, too much risk and cost. He would do better being a company driver at that point.Albertaflatbed, Feedman, D.Tibbitt and 5 others Thank this.
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