Owning a truck for personal use?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by jgeck90, Mar 30, 2013.

  1. DCARTER442

    DCARTER442 Bobtail Member

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    I own a small rollback and wanting to find out if I need all the dot numbers and all that just for personal use
     
  2. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    What do you mean by personal use? Some people see their one person small business as personal, while the government doesn't.
     
  3. Triple Digit Bullhauler

    Triple Digit Bullhauler Heavy Load Member

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    Not for Hire is defined as " one that hauls his/her own product where no profit (s) are being made from the hauling of said product.
     
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  4. not4hire

    not4hire Road Train Member

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    It also means, "You couldn't possibly pay me enough to do that." :D
     
  5. Triple Digit Bullhauler

    Triple Digit Bullhauler Heavy Load Member

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    I own my own fleet of trucks, haul my own product. I make excellent money. I own a large cattle ranch and have contracts for the buying of my beef cattle that pays the bills. So my trucks are "not for hire" . The issue comes if one enters into outside contracts and haul others freight for a profit.
     
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  6. TTNJ

    TTNJ Heavy Load Member

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    I realize this is an old thread and most folks have bailed...BUT....

    This is not what not for hire means. Not for hire means exactly what it says, you can not be hired by anybody to haul anything. It does not mean you are not hauling for profit. Hauling for no profit would make you non commercial.

    What’s the difference? Let’s take the farm use out of here to make it simple...but if you haul your own hay and sell it, this would make you not for hire but you could charge $ for delivery, which would be for profit and make you commercial.

    But, let’s say you haul the hay from the field to your farm for pleasure horse use only. You be not fire and non commercial use.
     
  7. Triple Digit Bullhauler

    Triple Digit Bullhauler Heavy Load Member

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    I haul my cattle with my trucks, but the profit does not come from hauling the product. It comes from a separate entity in the contracts for the beef cattle . I do not run log books, do not make a profit from hauling, and my trucks have in small print "not for hire" on the side steps. Been doing this since 1996 when my ranch was started. I drove over the road for 28 years, and talked to many a D.O.T officers, and they have all stated the same thing as i explained in my posts.
     
  8. TTNJ

    TTNJ Heavy Load Member

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    I have my own setup as well so I am also very familiar with the regulations. I have driven all over the US and have had probably the same conversations you have had with DOT officers and scale house officers at 2am.
    I was just simply pointing out that not for hire does not always mean non commercial.
    Here is a better example..a manufacturing company runs there own trucks to dispose of cardboard boxes. They are not for hire but they are commercial because it is used in a business. Driver would have a CDL.
    The difference....you and I don’t have to a CDL with what we do.
     
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