P style brakes

Discussion in 'Heavy Duty Diesel Truck Mechanics Forum' started by Mr Bob, Oct 18, 2017.

  1. Mr Bob

    Mr Bob Light Load Member

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    Can I convert P style brake shoes to Q style?
     
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  3. Goodysnap

    Goodysnap Road Train Member

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    You should mind your P's and Q's........lol.Seriously though give us a little more what your after. Are you talking Rockwell Q shoes? What is the application? Pictures?
     
  4. BoxCarKidd

    BoxCarKidd Road Train Member

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    P brakes had straight anchor pins with snap rings. The shoes had a complete eye or circle around the pin. Standard Q's are a direct replacement. Those are the ones with a small hump in the web where the single spring connects. If you replace the cams you will likely only find Q Plus cams. Then you will need the Q + shoes that do not have a hump on the web. That propar stuff is similar and can be confusing. Pictures?
     
    Goodysnap Thanks this.
  5. Mr Bob

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    4551P shoes. 16 1/2 X 8 5/8. I do believe they are Rockwell. They are not offset.
     
  6. BoxCarKidd

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    Should interchange with the 4551Q. Euclid shoe identification chart has some measurements on them. The very common 4515 P's and Q's interchange and are on the same chart.
     
  7. Goodysnap

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    Takes me back. Yeah the ones that are easier to torch off up here in the great north cuz they are always froze on. Never knew they were a P. Thanks BCK.
     
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