You are very correct, but I don't have a gas station hanging on the back of my truck going down the road either
PAM Transport and Driver Solutions only care about money
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We don't live in a perfect world mostly because people do not take enough responsiblity for themselves and for their job performance. Driver Solutions is included in that statement and I do believe they are like everyone else, money motivated above all and don't really understand that long term actually earning their pay gets them more money.
It really starts with the screening process and I think they accept students they know don't have a chance of being a successful truck driver and start harrassing them immediately for money right after they failed hence the bad blood from the get.
They expect a percentage of washouts before the contractual obligations are fulfilled, but don't fault them for that...They offered an opportunity, and failure of someone to see it through, is a problem of the individual, not the company.
PAM is in it for the money...and it should be after proper training has been provided. During my training, emphasis was placed on getting the load delivered. Training was at best an afterthought. The trainer was a chain-smoking, self-righteous, bottle-peeing jerk. If you do get in an accident be prepared to be on your own. Everyone wants to rob the bank if you get away with it but when the #### comes down the fat cats hide in the alley.
You say you have two law licenses, what kind of law licenses? You are obviously NOT a lawyer. If you where a lawyer, you wouldnt need to sign a $6000 contract with a credit shark company. You really think you will get off without paying. How many LAWYERS do you think the company had write, and review those contracts.
I see so much bull in your story, its pathetic. I retired from the Army, you sound like some lazy private that just came in from AIT. Its always some one elses fault.
Who ever told you it was OK to make a U-turn in a eighteen wheeler. YOU actually went out on the road without a map? Every one of the companies I research says right in there packing list, to bring a TRUCKERS road atlas to orientation.
EVERY company out there is in business to make money, if you get to make some along the way, then great.
2nd, with all due respect, this isnt the ARMY we are dealing with. This is a company that preys on individuals in trying times. Unlike the ARMY these people can be wrong. Now I am not going to defend all of FDTLaw's statements as I only have as much information to his circumstances as you. I will say that by the end of all of the school and training I was pretty much dead broke. I am a bit luckier perhaps in that I have places I can turn to for help, but maybe he didnt? I dont know, but everyone has kinda jumped on that map thing and for obvious reasons, but I am giving him the benefit of the doubt on this one. I think he probably knew how important it was- maybe it just wasnt a possibility?
Also I agree with you in that the school is trying to make a buck, since that is what puts food on the table. I feel that what is being called into question is whether or not their tactics are entirely ethical. There is little doubt that this has become an issue for many companies and financial institutions, and to just dismiss anyone that is crying foul as lazy finger pointers seems as dangerous as blaming the current housing collapse on the borrowers.
I think all of us would like to be able to get a court ordered 200% return over five years on our investments, or just the price we put on a service we offer (according to these people no matter the satisfaction level of the customer). Unfortunately that isnt a luxury that is afforded to most, but that is exactly what takes place with some of these "schools".
Lazy is also a lack of desire to be informed. Instead of judging this poster as an outright fraudulent cry baby, maybe you could ask for some clarifications in what he typed that youre taking issue with. It would serve a greater purpose, than just here, to question the actions of companies rather than accuse, dismiss, mock, and side with the accused. A method the majority of people have used for far too long.Last edited: Dec 7, 2011
At least you sound intelligent. Fdtlaw has apparently already left the forum, and won't speak for himself. This says a lot about him. I still say he's full of it.
I'm not a lawyer; my background is actually law enforcement. Investigating accidents, actually crashes (an accident is something that's not preventable, and there are very few of those) is something I've done for years. Every thing he described is his fault. Be aware of your surroundings. A little common sense will go a long way.
First, if anyone wants to get in touch with me, I will gladly discuss these issues individually or collectively. I am not afraid to express my opinion about this matter and argue my point as succinctly as possible.
Second, I disagree that all that occurred was my responsbility. I did have a truckers' atlas, and the company did provide a qualcomm which was suppose to provide the directions (driver directions at that- I should have been more aware of driver fallibility and inaccuracy in these directions). However, little additional items were provided and it was up to me to furnish them. Being as I have had bad misfortune, being in a bad marriage which I sacrificed everything for, I had no money to buy items that would have assisted me to perhaps avoid what eventually happened. Hence, when I made the wrong turn, it was not totally my responsibility. I was going by what the directions on the qualcomm indicated. Further, I stopped a little ways from where I should have turned and called my destination but no one responded to my call. I drove further, and was faced with a choice. Do I continue and maybe get in a predicament I could not extricate myself from or do I make the effort to turn around and get back on track? In my judgment, I reached a point where I felt I could safely navigate a U-turn. I was in a situation early on in my first delivery where I managed what appeared to be impossible situations. Unfortunately, toward the very end of the turn, my steer tires got stuck in soft ground necessitating my tow. Had there been better instructions, this would have never happened so I refuse to take full responsibility.
Likewise, even after the fuel pump incident, nothing was said about my ability. My driver manager said to brush it aside and move on. It turns out that no disciplinary process is in place to inform a driver of where he stands concerning "incidents" and possible discipline or discharge. When enough happens then an employee faces the inevitable. There is no doubt in my mind, I could have been a successful truck driver had these issues been addressed. I managed to take a load from Florida to South Carolina (no problem), then South Carolina to a suburb of Chicago (no problem) and from there to Pennsylvania (no problem).
I have law licenses in both Ohio and Arkansas. Privately, I will furnish each one of my Bar identification numbers for any to see for themselves I am, in fact, a licensed attorney that is presently on inactive status but with no prior or existing complaints. I had a law practice in Mountain View, Arkansas from 1998 to 2002. Plus I do not lie, and I resent when people question my credentials because they attack my integrity.
As far as my debt. through Drivers Solutions after contacting the Better Business Bureau, this entity in fact forgave me for the debt incurred by going through the C1 school. I have the email saved which addresses this matter.
All I desire is better training for people like me, who Drivers Solutions, C1, and eventually PAM Transport thrust out in an effort to have them make money instead of training each and every individual how to drive in the safest, most knowledgable way possible. Trucker jobs are some of the most vital jobs in this country. Without trained drivers, our economy would come to a standstill. However, these companies have a stern obligation to make sure and to provide the essential training for their prospects to be successful drivers.
I welcome any further dialogue with me directly. My email is firstname.lastname@example.org. I wish each and every one the happiest of holiday seasons.
I know what you have been through man, Went to C1 in Fortworth TX . the school is a joke . the teacher give the whole class all the answers to all the test we took . The 3 weeks iI was there we had 1 week of class which we only spent 2 days in class room . The rest of the time was spent driving back in forth to dmv.taking test to get a permit so we could drive for the next 2 weeks.They had no classes on saturday as was on driversloutions web page 7 am to12 on sat. The driving part was another joke , in one truck with one trainer one day and in another truck with another trainer the next day for 2 weeks never the same trk. or trainer . every trainer told us to forget what the other trainer said this is how you do it .none of the trainers on same page.verry un organised . rushed through the whole thing . and do i work for PAM now ? no I do not was let go because I wouldnt team up. not putting my life in someone elses hands was out there for only a short time and seen a plenty of truck on there side because the driver fell asleep was not going out that way.
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