Paper Log books? Tell me what you always do!

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by luvtotruck, Aug 10, 2013.

  1. luvtotruck

    luvtotruck Road Train Member

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    Hi, I am going from Electronic Logs back to Paper Logs books, I remember most all of it, I just think I must be missing something, I went and printed a bunch of sheets and am doing different trips with various stops and stuff so I can get it all down, So tell me what you had to remember when you came back(or to) to paper log books, We all are not on here by our real. names, I don't think, so tell me where I may be able to make up time? I don't want to learn how to keep 3 books or nothing like that but what you do to stay more efficient. By The way THANK YOU.:biggrin_2552: Stay Safe Out there.
     
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  3. Dakota1358

    Dakota1358 Medium Load Member

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    andre Medium Load Member

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    Saving time is all about minimizing time on line 4. That's your time and it counts against your clocks. Be frugal with your time on line 4.
     
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  5. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    Did I just read this post correctly? Have I entered into bizzaro world or some other alternate universe? I guess it's now official, I'm old. I always thought knowing paper logs was a given ... like a puppy knows how to dog-paddle and tread water, and picking up how to run eLogs was the problem. What are they teaching in school these days? (CDL and high school) Can many of us even do basic reading and mathematics? This is not a personal slam on the OP, this is a slam on the truck driving industry in general. God help us.
     
  6. Palazon

    Palazon Road Train Member

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    LOL. Like the OP, I started on paper, then went to elog, and now (after swapping companies) am back to paper. You get spoiled on Elogs, 'cause the electronic secretary takes care of it for you. Remember the old adage "if you don't use it, you lose it"?

    Like Dakota says, DDL program on the laptop will help keep you straight. Even if you don't carry a printer, you can use it to make sure you stay legal.
     
  7. Horse Whisperer

    Horse Whisperer Light Load Member

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    I can tell you that, in the 3 years I've been running Drivers Daily Log on my laptop, EVERY single logbook inspection involves a 2-3 second glance by the Diesel Bear... the KNOW they are wasting their time looking for little crappola errors... especially math errors... I love it, and wholeheartedly recommend it to all and sundry.
     
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  8. Phil S

    Phil S Light Load Member

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    In this day & age, real name or not, I'll suggest that the way you can be most efficient is by keeping your left door closed.

    The simple truth is that if you are not in full compliance of all appropriate regulations and IF you are involved in a serious injury accident, you will be at risk of losing your freedom, money and every portion of your life that you hold dear.

    In the "Person of Interest" world in which we now live, law enforcement and ambulance-chasing, scumbag lawyers, have the ability to track the better part of your workday by means of GPS tracking of your truck & cell phone, credit/debit card use and random video cameras. If it can be proven that you are operating illegally, there is a good chance that you can be held liable to some degree, in any collision in which you're involved, simply because you wouldn't have been there if you had been operating legally.
     
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  9. Horse Whisperer

    Horse Whisperer Light Load Member

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    Indeed... the forensic accountants will find out what time you got to the shipper/receiver and what time you left... PrePass and toll booths all have you date/time stamped, credit/debit/fuel cards, CAT scale, weigh stations, even Bears sitting in ambush scan your door info... log it like you drove it... if there's ever an incident, no matter if the other guy's at fault, if you have a falsified log, YOU are at fault, automatically... sux, but true in this day and age...
     
  10. Jake The Bullhauler

    Jake The Bullhauler Light Load Member

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    If in doubt rip it out, burn it, and redo to make everything look legit. I Do it every day.
     
  11. Wharf Rat

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    Having recently moved from OTR ( on E-logs) to LTL and now being a flex board driver, I keep two log books legally all the time. I run one on P&D ( midnite to midnite ) and one for Linehaul ( noon to noon). Unless you need to run illegally , in which case you should reevaluate your profession, keeping the books is easy as long as you update them as needed. What a concept, following the rules. I honestly am sick of hearing about running two to three logbooks illegally and knowing that the person who drives that truck is on the road with me and my family and friends. If you can't do it honestly, just pack up and go home. Also, you might as well face up to the fact that in the next five years, EVERYONE will be on E-logs and have cameras in their trucks. The insurance companies, lawyers and lobbyists will make sure of it. Just like the new HOS. It's to create jobs more than anything. It's just like DEF, next five years, every diesel over 70HP will have DEF off the assemebly line. If you can't change with the times, move along.
     
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