Paper Log books? Tell me what you always do!

loose leaf logs,not log books,is the only way to handle your immediate crisis.you'll be fine in no time.welcome back to trucking as it should be,not under some electronic timer.why these "drivers"run for big brother companies that force electronic logs on them is beyond my comprehension when there are plenty of outfits that allow a driver the opportunity to run legally and not worry about every minute.

electronic logs are nothing more than hand holding by the company that forces them on its driver-

 

Andre is right, I only show 15 min pretrip, 15 min fuel, and 15 min @ shipper / rcvr, any amount over goes off duty. This helps on your 70hr total. Its my understanding other than a few technicalities, nothing illegal about doing so. If your not in the driver seat, and doing nothing pertaining to your job, you can log off duty.

Phil S is correct also, any 'creative writing' may get you past roadside DOT, but will come out in an accident investigation.

My best tip is keep it neat! Most troopers give the 7 day quick flip through, but have had a few look hard. If you know anything about military training, a sloppy presentation deserves a closer look. <--- That holds true for not only logs, but other paper work, your truck, and yourself. These are all ex military boys.

All that said, I once knew a guy who knew a guy (not named x#1 LOL)... With a few tricks.

• Corporate office vs home terminal address in different time zone. Law states you must use home terminal time, but if corporate address appears in upper left of log you can get away with a little confusion on the issue.
• For 'creative writing', run loose leaf. You can correct much easier than running multi log books. Meaning either get a ring binder to fit co. log book or have your own printed. (Its not much more expensive to have local printer make custom logs for you than it is purchasing 12 books a year from truckstop)

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   [*=1]Monthly log book is held together w/ few staples, pull it apart and hole punch the pages for binder.
   [*=1]I had full 8x11" w/ pre-trip, and IFTA state milage / hwy's report fill rest of page printed. <---I prefer this method, very clean and organized.

 

can you say paranoid?

 

I log at 52 mph, take the driven miles between point a and point b and divide them by 52,extra time I put in line 1. This helps cover the required 30 minute lunch break.

I show 15 minutes for unloading, loading, fueling, I flag pre trip and post trip and combine vehicle inspection with fueling in the same 15 minute period.

Make sure you line up all timestamps accordingly That is for loading, unloading fueling or any other receipt or documentation thaat has a date/timestamp.

I have been logging this way for 20 plus years and never had a problem or ticket for log violations.

 

• agree with the above w/the only exception being a time/date stamped arrival/departure time from shipper and/or receiver.example is my weight tickets in and out.i must then log it exactly as i ran it hence the always legal aspect.15 minute pretrips,loading/unloading,etc.have never been questioned during my tenure driving.neat and legible, period, goes a very long way.
  
  that x#1 has learned and shared many tricks,too numerous to mention, that work,and are legal,over the decades.merely ask or wait for my exclusive opinion.ha!-

 

people that keep the left door closed. ARE INSANE.

sorry, but i'm going to pee. and get the blood flowing in my legs. and buttocks. and check my load securement. and make sure my lights are working and tires are all inflated. while i'm at it. make sure all the lug nuts and drums are there also.

yep, i actually lost a brake drum from phoenix to salt lake city. couldn't figure out what was hitting the truck. everything looked good at night. but by the time daylight hit. i could see the brakes.

i make just as much now and work half as hard.

there's an app called BIGROAD. it's free and uses your gps location. you can download to your phone. use the app as your elog. and write everything to paper.

drivers daily log and eclipse come with a 30 day free trial. i use trucklogger. half the cost and comes with a 60 day free trial. has various forms that companies use for there log style and vir.

theoretically, though, the paper works exactly like the elog. it just requires some hand exercise in the form of actually WRITING. and it keeps your brain functioning also as now you have to actually ADD your hours.

elogs are a lazy man's chain to the government. and will make you brain dead cuz it doesn't require you to think.

and like some of the above posts. never though i'd see the day where elogs went back to paper. with everyone raving how they love there system.

me, personally, like my freedom and no rush on the clock.

 

Real men don't pee.

 

If you lot it in elogs, you still have to put it on paper. Flag inspections or mark actual times. Same with fuel stops and load/ unload.

As paranoid as it sounds, trying to fudge your logs anymore is pointless. Coops are linked together and the cameras on the roads have you pegged and logged in. I'm not talking the prepass camera either. WI and ID both taught me that lesson in the last year. Why they bother having is even run logs for HOS is beyond me. I got an overaxle in WI and he showed me all my locations for the past week.. Had I paper, he'd have compared the two. Since I was on Qualcomm, he couldn't bring it inside. It was weird.

 

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