Paper Logs

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Kahlo_house, Nov 3, 2019.

  1. WesternPlains

    WesternPlains Road Train Member

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    Very important to put notes on your logs. DOT is very understanding.
    I've walked all over HOS. Also things like this. I always put notes on my logs.
    DOT gives me clean inspections and tells me: "You really know what you're doing."
    That's because of the notes in the logs.
    The walking all over HOS. Something happened twice. Explained it in the notes. DOT loved that. Clean Inspection.
     
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  3. WesternPlains

    WesternPlains Road Train Member

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    Also the BOL you put on your log. It doesn't matter to DOT if it's actually the BOL number. Just any number on your paperwork that matches. It can be the PO number. Or the invoice number. They don't care. Just make sure you have a number there that they can match up.
    If you're running empty. Put down empty where the BOL goes. Or bobtail there.
    Communicate truth!
     
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  4. Long FLD

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    It’s not an ELD issue, it’s an Omnitracs issue. Most people on Omnitracs got grandfathered for the last two years and have been running as AOBRD and not an ELD. They’ve been updating their software and such lately to be compliant in December. I have a Keep Truckin ELD and have zero issues today.

    To the OP, just start a paper log for today as you’ve been advised. And continue the paper log until Omnitracs comes back up.
     
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  5. A Bug

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    Of all the days to start driving. Never start your career on a day that messes with daylight savings.
     
  6. ZVar

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    Was the motor carrier requiring this? If so, all those hours legally need to be On-Duty, Not Driving.
     
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  7. Cattleman84

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    This is one of the many problems of ELDs... Companies dont teach drivers hiw to run a paper log book... Eld crashes and everyone panics... Paper is easy, just remember to write down mileage at state lines.
     
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  8. rbrtwbstr

    rbrtwbstr Road Train Member

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    Just tell the cop you're a sovereign citizen and you don't abide by such rules, so you don't have a logbook. Then, go make a sammich while they figure out what to do :D
     
  9. Tb0n3

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    I don't think you can make a sandwich in the time it takes them to pull out the baton and start smashing your window.
     
  10. WesternPlains

    WesternPlains Road Train Member

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    I didn't know mileage at State line?
    Now I do keep track of that for taxes on fuel. Have a seperate log book for my O/O. But don't put on log how much in each state? Just from and to and how many miles. ????
     
  11. ZVar

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    Correct. No need to clutter the log and get a possible Forms and Manner violation. Only put the required info on, I suggest notes like "fuel, pre, etc" when changing duty and maybe a recap to know you aren't going over hours.
    The recap and notes are a suggestion, not required.
     
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  12. Cattleman84

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    I always noted the time and odometer reading as I crossed the state line. Then the next time I stopped I would put a flag off the drive line at the time I had crossed the border... The notation on that flag would read "Entering Iowa, OD 576,398" meaning I had entered Iowa (at whatever time the flag was positioned) and the odometer reading was 576,398. This way IFTA miles can be accurately calculated.

    The next stateline would have a flag like "Entering Nebraska, OD 576,699"
     
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