Paperlogs and logging fueling

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  1. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    Most people have family and enjoy seeing them for more than a few hours. 24 hours? Sounds like a day doing laundry, cutting grass then hitting the road. What kind of life is that? The problem with wasted time isn't that your hometime is wasted time. It's the company you work for wastes your whole week with haphazard planning and probably doesn't have the work to utilize you right.
     
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  3. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    I see your side of it but like I've said on here several times over the years that 34 hour reset limitation kept a lot of contract trucks on the sideline for a full 48 hours every weekend. It was effective at reducing capacity and pushing rates up. After it was eliminated all those long weekend runs were easily covered by the contract carriers and then there was no longer a need to put any of that good paying freight on the open market. People argued with me about that saying it didn't reduce capacity but I'm right, it definitely did.
     
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  4. 25(2)+2

    25(2)+2 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Time of fueling needs to match logs fairly closely, ELD or paper. The information disclosed need not show more than location and duty status, fueling is on duty not driving. That was also with the machine or by hand. Your employer may require more.

    Fueling at the end of a shift was what I was taught long ago, you go on duty, and if you are out then out of hours, park and go off duty or sleeper. Comdata and the other electronic methods of payment allow for easy checking of the time, and it ended when you shut off the pump and started when you entered your information (initiated the transaction). Fueling then also kept the tanks freer of moisture condensing as the tank temperature decreased after shutting down the engine.
     
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  5. ‘Olhand

    ‘Olhand Cantankerous Crusty

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    I don’t buy the safety live for a minute
    And if you’ve never run paper logs, you obviously weren’t around during the congressional hearing that went on forever about this with all the major players in this industry, pushing for not only electronic logs, but maximum 65 mile an hour speed limit for commercial vehicles. The question I was answering is when people talked about ooiIda, dropping the ball.
    In the simple fact of the matter was everybody and their brother in government came back to the independence and said this is what your industry is asking for and that’s why we did it
     
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  6. Powder Joints

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    Most of the problem of wasted time, at least in my world, is poor dispatch and order planning, in a lot of cases not even knowing where the trailer is, let alone if its really loaded.
    Drivers that are mileage drivers should not have to live load or unload at the mega carriers. For instance Heartland has hourly drivers in several of the yards, these guys should be shuttling loads to and from customers so when the mileage drivers hit the yard it is indeed drop and hook and gone.
    Sometimes they do it, sometimes not. If I really run drop n hooks between SLC and Cucamonga I can make pretty fair money, and run legal as well. But If I have to go play in Rancho Dominguez getting these things unloaded, then not so much. I have a couple of customers I drop mt;s at and p/u loaded trailers and there real good at having them ready to go, and loaded properly weight wise. Same on the other end Corrine is willing to take the loads when I get there and the return in SLC is ready to go as well, but then your hit with the live unload in the Harbor, which kills the momentum.
    In the old days say back pre 2000, the drivers were expected to just take care of the details and log it off duty while unloading and reloading..
    I Have been driving since 2 stroke diesel's, and I welcome elogs.
     
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  7. CorsairFanboy

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    I’m not talking about Hometime. I want just 24hrs “mandated” reset instead of 34 While on the road. At home, I decide how long I’m staying, not log book lol.
     
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    CorsairFanboy Medium Load Member

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  9. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    Ok well I never did any resets on the road before. Trucking has always been a get home at least once weekly thing, sometimes more. Everybody I know trucks that way. Living in a cab for multiple weeks or months on end is a foreign concept I have no idea about. So to me it's a given that a 34 hour reset is something that happens at house. Giving up 34 or 24 hours of wasted unproductive time camping out in a truck cab during the work week doesn't strike me as any sort of good deal at all. Just another way for an inefficient trucking company to take advantage of their drivers.
     
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  10. CorsairFanboy

    CorsairFanboy Medium Load Member

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    I have always done 6 to 8 weeks out on average. My longest has been like 3 months or so. So if I am not rolling it gets aggravating haha.

    if you can be home for 2 days every week then that’s pretty good. I would also take a week off every 2 months or so.

    I like staying out long and coming home for 10 days or so when I get fed up.
     
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  11. snowwy

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    I like being home on the weekends for a full 60 hours. Plus holidays.

    Instead of that 34 only crap.
     
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