Part 2 of "boost problems" understanding the turbo

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by skinnytrucker79, Feb 11, 2014.

  1. skinnytrucker79

    skinnytrucker79 Light Load Member

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    Ok this should of been the first post but better late then never lol

    the problem with my truck losing boost or not always making full boost I come to figure it's possibly a bad turbo or a actuator. First I need to understand how it works better and please correct me when I am wrong.

    at idle the actuator shaft should be short as possible (gate is closed so it sends exhaust to the turbo) as I accelerate the gate stays closed as boost rises until it gets to a set psi... Then the shaft on the actuator pushes down opening the flap in the turbo VIA the braded tube going into the top of the actuator. Since I believe the actuator arm should extend I assume it is air pressure pushing on the top of it that opens the flap and "blows" off boost? Now when I go to shift or lift off the throttle the arm is quickly pushed open to evacuate boost pressure since I don't see a conventional BOV? So if my problem is a bad actuator it would be getting air pressure pushed on the actuator too soon ?? If that's the case were is the supply coming from that is cutting my boost short

    makes for a long day trying to pull hills... Funny as I said in the earlier post if I shut the truck off even for a few minutes it will regain full boost for a short period of time
     
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  3. 05 FreightShaker

    05 FreightShaker Light Load Member

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    You're confusing a waste gate with a VNT actuator. A waste gate relieves boost at a certain level and a VNT actuator varies the boost levels at different engine RPMs. If you pay attention to other newer trucks, you will hear them sound like a jet when they move slowly. The VNT actuator works with the EGR to force more boost through the intake as EGR gas is inert which means it is not combustible. Therefore, pumping an inert gas will cause a loss in power and boost and the VNT tries to compensate for this loss. A waste gate doesn't use external air pressure but instead uses the pressure built on the compressor side of the turbo to open the wastage actuator to bleed some pressure in order to keep the turbo in its normal operating range. As i mentioned in your other post, check the linkage on the turbo and make sure the linkage moves freely without resistance. Also have someone press the accelerator pedal while you watch the actuator. It should move up freely without any jerking.
     
  4. skinnytrucker79

    skinnytrucker79 Light Load Member

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    Ok I watched a few videos and I will check it out . I misunderstood the VNT opens to raise boost pressure then relieve it so with the truck off the lever should be short or long as possible. (Not sure what way on the cummins) and as rpm raises it should do one or the other opening the veins to raise turbo pressure . From other things I read the arm itself on the turbo could be rusted or the veins themselves could have carbon build up. Either way now I have a better idea of what to look for. Thank for the help
     
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