Part Time Local Trucking

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by jheverly, Aug 14, 2024.

  1. jheverly

    jheverly Bobtail Member

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    I am currently employed full time as a Firefighter working 24hrs on duty and 72 hrs off. I have an oppurtunity to driver on my days off for a friend who owns a landscaping company. He will be buying a fifth wheel dump trailer, a lowboy for an excavator, and a water tanker to fill pools. He is also looking to buy a tractor. I will be his only CDL driver until he completes his cdl classes. All of this work will be inside the 100 air mile radius. My question is this. Would it be worth it for me to purchase the tractor and use his trailers? This way if I saw fit I could use the tractor whenever he has no work to be done? Or should I let him assume all of the responsibility? For refrence he and I are looking at tractors pre 2000 mainly KW W900's and Pete 359/379, but also dreaming about some really nice W900A's, K100 Aerodynes, and Pete 352/362's lol. Also to address any Hours of service questiuons I have found FMCSA guidance on working the 24hr shifts at the fire department as follows below.


    "Question 29: Although firefighters, emergency medical technicians, paramedics and other public safety professionals are often exempt from the hours-of-service (HOS) regulations under the governmental exception [49 CFR 390.3(f)(2)], they sometimes have second jobs with interstate motor carriers for which they are required to comply with the HOS rules. When one of these individuals has a second job with an interstate motor carrier and works a 24-hour shift for the fire/rescue/emergency services department, is all of the time spent during the shift considered on-duty time?
    Guidance: No. Fire fighters and other public safety professionals working 24-hour shifts may record time during which they are required or permitted to rest as off-duty time. However, all time that the public safety specialist is required to perform work (e.g., administrative work, cleaning/repairing equipment, operating equipment, etc.) would be considered on-duty time."
     
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  3. 201

    201 Road Train Member

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    STOP RIGHT THERE! I'm surprised nobody else has said it yet, don't even think of it. I can't even begin to tell you what a mistake that would be. I think you can do some work for the guy, but sounds like a new venture, and will be riddled with problems. Oh, he would LOVE for you to have your own truck, it's the biggest hassle of the business. I wouldn't jeopardize your fire fighter career for something as frivolous as what you describe.
     
  4. OldeSkool

    OldeSkool Road Train Member

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    Idk how you’d put the truck to work doing anything local if you didn’t own a trailer too. And putting an antique truck out over the road, well, not sure I’d do that.
     
  5. Accidental Trucker

    Accidental Trucker Road Train Member

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    I'll pile on. Lots to learn, and learning is much cheaper on someone else's dime.
     
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  6. jheverly

    jheverly Bobtail Member

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    I am sure there are a million possible problems that could arise. The owner of the company is in no way suggesting this. It is my idea that I am researching. The original plan is for the company owner to own all the equipment and pay me an hourly rate. As for jeopardizing my firefighter career I have no clue why I would be doing that as this would be on my days off and I would continue to work. This would be a side job to firefighting.
     
  7. jheverly

    jheverly Bobtail Member

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    I would have th ability to utilize his trailers with my tractor.
     
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  8. TurkeyCreekJackJohnson

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    I believe what my cohorts are trying to get at is, if you want to be an owner operator you should get your feet wet by being a company man 1st. Not that it can't be done, but learn with your friend 1st, then decide if it's what you really want to take full responsibility over. Don't let all that shiny chrome and tall tales of "trucking adventure" cloud your judgment.

    Separately, thank you and God bless you for being a 1st responder!
     
  9. jheverly

    jheverly Bobtail Member

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    I totally get it with getting your feet wet. I guess I should have prefaced the post with before becoming a firefighter I drove truck full time for about 10 years. I also completely get leaving the ownership to the company rather than being an owner operator for him. I am just playing with different ideas. At the end of it all I will be retiring in 8 to 12 years and am doing what I can to pad my retirement. Thank for all the input as I truly appreciate it.
     
  10. Ridgeline

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    Just an FYI, if you get into an accident, you have no immunity. I won't get into why I say this but I will say that a ambulence chasing POS lawyer will find out about the two jobs and rip into that fact and fight to get more money out of the carrier and you.

    If you don't beleive me, take a look at the amount of money that these POS lawyers are getting, we have a couple here in michigan claiming close to a billion dollars.
     
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  11. zmster2033

    zmster2033 Light Load Member

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    Between that and the cost of everything going through the roof, I don't see how insurance doesn't continue to creep up!
     
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